My friend purchased some lowers and I plan on taking one off his hands. What forms would need to be filled out between the two of us to make this legal? thanks in advance for the help

Good question....especially since ATF considers a Lower as an "Other" rather than a handgun or Long Gun on the 4473. INAL, but I would Assume that you would just both fill out a Certificate of Elligibility, as you would for any other long gun. I personally would add an endorsement to the COE stating that the purchaser would not attemt to make a Pistol out of it...but that's just Me.

As long as the lowers are for LONG ARMS, all you need is a pair of completed Certificate(s) of Eligibility

Buyer and Seller each keep one

The State is none-the-wiser.

I believe that since it is an "other" it has to go through an FFL - regardless of whether or not there is a stock on it or not.

 

Paul will probably chime in with the correct info.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Info on AR lowers in this thread : http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/27098-registering-an-ar-lower-receiver-as-a-pistol/

NJ defines handgun.. and they define long gun..

 

a lower IS a firearm.. so if that firearm has a stock and is intended to be fired from the shoulder then it should be a long gun because NJ specifically defines both and a "lower with a stock" or "a firearm with a stock" is not designed to fired with one hand.. thus not a handgun by NJ law.... also it is not like you can build a NJ legal AR pistol anyway..

 

unless there is some specific NJ law regarding lowers I am not aware of..

 

 

Handgun" means any pistol, revolver, or other firearm originally designed or manufactured to be fired by the use of

a single hand.

 

"Rifle" means any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder and using the energy of the explosive in a fixed

metallic cartridge to fire a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.

Well it's going to be built into a long gun regardless...not too interested in AR pistols. It's one of my best friends so there's really no worries about what's going to happen once I have possession. I built one and got the itch to do another...maybe try doing something different. I actually inspired him and another friend to build their own. I guess we'll both do COE's unless someone else chimes in that tells me otherwise.

I've always just done COEs.

Fine fine, here is what you do.

 

If you are concerned. Slap on a stock, or an upper to the stripped lower. Buy it from your buddy, then if he wants to buy the upper from you, he can do that.

 

I dont believe there are any issues with lowers in NJ. the issue is with ATF transfers, out of state. You can't buy a stripped lower face to face out of state in PA, because it is not a complete firearm. It is an ATF issue, not a NJ issue.

One also needs to be 21 to purchase a receiver from a dealer, as it is not a long gun. FTF does not matter. 18 is the minimum age.

Paul, my understanding is correct otherwise?

Yes, COE is good. No stock necessary.

did this, filled out Coe papers, no problems what's so ever, gtg...

I've done it before with just a CoE.

Sorry for the misinformation. Just dawned on me that I was basing my answer on an interstate purchase of a complete lower with A2 stock. At the time I thought I'd just be able to purchase at the dealer and take it home. I was surprised to learn that it had to be delivered through an FFL in my resident state. Mis-applied that experience.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Thanks for the help guys I appreciate it. Can't wait to start AR #2