So I'm having a hard time deciding which .45 I want. I've shot a Springfield and I like it alot however I'm getting the HK bug again. Can anyone give me some opinions on both before I make my final decision?

Both are great guns. Do you want a 1911 or plastic fantastic?

 

If you want ultra reliable, awesome handgun, get an HK. If you want a classic, get the 1911. Or get both.

Maks hit's it right on the head. The HK is a great gun and I wouldn't mind having either. I think I would go HK tho.

Thanks Bryan.

 

Hk's, are like an enigma. They are ultra reliable (at least handguns), cost a bit more to buy, but once you do, it is tough to run one into the ground. Hk is what Glocks strive to be, but have not reached. Even though it is a plastic gun, you never feel the downsides of it.

 

While you own them, they don't really stand out, begging to be shot, but then you sell them, and you miss them.

 

I miss my Hk P30L, and miss my Hk 45. I have a P7 PSP, and even though I think I want to sell it, I know I will regret it if I do.

 

A modern 1911, dime a dozen. Springfield 1911... very hit or miss.

 

If you run across a great deal on the Hk, buy it.

Can you even find an Operator? I don't really see them around.

 

I'd really like to try the HK45 since I've heard so many good things

about them. I had a USP Compact and it was extremely reliable.

For anyone interested in the Hk45, Shore Shot has the HK45 available to rent so you can try before you buy.

Go with the USP45, send it to Bill Springfield, and save some cashola.

I'd say HK45 all the way. (Then again, I'm biased... I just bought one.)

Can you even find an Operator? I don't really see them around.

 

I'd really like to try the HK45 since I've heard so many good things

about them. I had a USP Compact and it was extremely reliable.

 

I think I can find one. May take a little time but I have the time since I have to wait for some permits. lol

 

For anyone interested in the Hk45, Shore Shot has the HK45 available to rent so you can try before you buy.

 

hey thanks for the tip I might actually rent one out first but I'm pretty sure I'll love it since I've owned a USP.

 

Go with the USP45, send it to Bill Springfield, and save some cashola.

 

I was seriously considering this idea however from what I've read the grip is slimmer on the hk45 which is good because it may be more comfortable in my wife's hands when she wants to shoot it. I've heard mixed reviews with Bill Springfield and I'm alittle hesitant to ship my gun to him.

 

 

I'd say HK45 all the way. (Then again, I'm biased... I just bought one.)

 

Whats the trigger reset like? The only thing I didn't like to much about my USP was the reset. I got use to it however does it have a shorter reset than the USP?

Thanks Bryan.

 

Hk's, are like an enigma. They are ultra reliable (at least handguns), cost a bit more to buy, but once you do, it is tough to run one into the ground. Hk is what Glocks strive to be, but have not reached. Even though it is a plastic gun, you never feel the downsides of it.

 

While you own them, they don't really stand out, begging to be shot, but then you sell them, and you miss them.

 

I miss my Hk P30L, and miss my Hk 45. I have a P7 PSP, and even though I think I want to sell it, I know I will regret it if I do.

 

A modern 1911, dime a dozen. Springfield 1911... very hit or miss.

 

If you run across a great deal on the Hk, buy it.

 

Thanks for the response. You seem to know your way around HK's pretty well. I never hear a bad response about the hk45 which is making me want it even more.

Maks, I was going to order another p30 but not the lem. Was gonna get the da/sa version and figured if I wanted the lem, I could convert it later. I miss the p30.

 

I also prefer the hk45 over the usp45 because the mag release is much larger and easier to trasition into using my trigger finger for mag changes. That would make it easier for me than changing my grip for a mag drop.

We can all make jokes about Hk, anywhere from over-engineered, to the "Hk...because we hate you", to the marketing brochure of bullets facing backwards.... but all that aside... you will not find many people that will say it is not reliable, or a well thought out design.

 

The only Hk products that are questionable, are the plastic fantastic line of rifles, where the stock tends to expand and contract depending on the temperature outside. =)

The reset isn't great, I'm going to be honest. BUT... but... it's not bad enough (for me) that I feel I have to send it out yet. There's a BUNCH of slack, especially in SA... but again, I don't think it's that bad.

I have found the reset and trigger on my HK45 to be the best of the newer HK's (HK45,HK45c,P30) and better than my USP's that I have owned. Mine feels very similar to a USP with Match Trigger minus the over travel stop. With that said it is no where close to the feel of a 1911 trigger. The improved grip feels great but the HK45 is still a big gun and the high bore axis make shooting quickly a bit more difficult. The HK45 is basically bomb proof and it will be hard to find a more reliable .45 on the market but unless you are going to war for general shooting and fun at the range it is hard to beat a quality 1911.

I tried to like the HK polymer guns. I owned a P2000 with the LEM trigger. It was a good gun. I loved that it was totally ambidextrous and liked that it had a hammer rather than a striker. The finish and build quality were good. I just never warmed up to it that much. The ergonomics were only marginally better than most other polymer guns, and not as good as some others. The trigger was nothing special in SA/DA. The LEM was longer than the Glock pull. Would a Glock or M&P really be much less reliable or durable in some way than the HK? I couldn't see the value in it and eventually decided that HK love must be a "pride of ownership" thing. I sold my HK and moved on.

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Maks, I was going to order another p30 but not the lem. Was gonna get the da/sa version and figured if I wanted the lem, I could convert it later. I miss the p30.

 

I also prefer the hk45 over the usp45 because the mag release is much larger and easier to trasition into using my trigger finger for mag changes. That would make it easier for me than changing my grip for a mag drop.

 

Ah, just be aware there isn't a factory P30 LEM conversion kit. Some folks have done it on their own or leveraged a third party kit, but it's not officially supported by H&K. I don't know if that matters to you. On the other hand, the HK45 can be converted back and forth between DA/SA and LEM with a factory conversion kit.

 

To the OP, I'm a new gun owner, but started off with the P30S 9mm and HK45, both DA/SA. I'm trying to learn to handle the heavy DA trigger pull, but they've been fantastic and fun to shoot. It's early still, but so far no failures of any type through several hundred rounds. I recommend the HK45, for whatever that's worth.

The only handgun I don't have that I'd like to have is an HK45. There are some others that would be interesting to have but only the HK45 is "missing" for me.