In another post I wrote "fugg this guy and his family" and was asked to rewrite it as it was "not good." It is a shame that we have become so isolated from the family unit that now our actions have zero bearing on them. In China not only do you bring shame to your family by doing something wrong hell you even bring it upon your ancestors. A family member is not innocent by default. If my wife were a police officer and she violated someones rights, she would be kicked to the curb. There are things in this world that a person can do that can make them dead to you. The family members that stand by people that violate others rights are just as guilty because they ether agree with the persons action or decide to ignore the injustices. Any kids will most likely be taught the same messed up "values" as the delinquent parent. Why have be become so self involved in this country that we are all island??? I feel that my actions have consequences for myself and my family. It is know this that perhaps makes me conduct myself in a more proper manner.

i see your point, however, one can argue that "guilty by association" is never a good thing. It's like when someone calls you an a-hole then turns to your wife and say "you're an a-hole too just for being married to him." Now does that sound right?

Sounds right to me. If you actively support an asshole that is your decision and in turns makes you an asshole as well. Who cares if someone thinks you are an asshole because they think your spouse is an asshole though? Are you planning on associating someone who thinks so little of your spouse? If anything you should be bonded even more so to your spouse by sharing the label of asshole from some random person.

I have friends that are hated by people. These are ride or die guys. They would walk with me through the gates of hell if I asked. Does that make me a bad person for being loyal to people who others label as assholes, no good, trouble makers? I think not.

 

I am sure I am viewed in exactly the same why but don't care.

I have friends that are hated by people. These are ride or die guys. They would walk with me through the gates of hell if I asked. Does that make me a bad person for being loyal to people who others label as assholes, no good, trouble makers? I think not.

 

I am sure I am viewed in exactly the same why but don't care.

 

So if one of these guys ended up raping and killing a woman in public with multiple witnesses you would still stand next to them? This isn't about being labeled an asshole or a naughty man. News flash people someone out there thinks you are an asshole for some reason probably completely unwarranted, but maybe you accidentally cut someone off once and they think you are an asshole. This is about people associating with those that do terrible things like rape, murder and violating rights. Once again who gives a **** that someone outside of your family unit thinks you are a bad person or an asshole???

Your points are extreme, I would probably do everything within my power to help raise $$ if they needed for a defense, help the family out etc.. but I would limit my interaction with them if they were proven guilty of crimes you stated.

 

All crimes are different and to be honest, it would depend on exactly what the crime was.

Hey I'm just happy that you agree that violating rights is as extreme as murder and rape. I figured there were going to be posts about how violating rights isn't that bad and we should just get used to it because it happens all the time. I would hope that only in extreme circumstances that a family member is disowned.