Hello, I have a GSG AK variant rifle in 22 lr. I had a problem with jamming so I sent it to ATI to have it looked at and fixes. When I got it back, I went out shooting and the first 30 or so rounds went through fine. But after that, it started to experience jams every so often. Then, gradually and surely, it was jamming more and more, and eventually, was jamming every round, or every other round. My idea at this point is that I need to clean the rifle every time I have to reload the magazine, as when I got the gun back from ATI, they claimed to clean it and it worked fine until more rounds went through it. But this leads me to my question.... does that make sense to anyone? Is it really neccessary to have to clean my 22lr after every 10 rounds? Because that seems kind of ridiculous to me, though I plan to quickly clean the ejection port every mag change just to see if thats the problem. Thanks for any advice you can offer.

What kind of ammo?

What kind of ammo were you using? Have you tired different types?

and what kind of jam?

 

Is it failing to chamber next round?

Is the empty brass ejecting?

 

Its like saying my car does not start.

the gun is marked for 22lr hv, and i have used both 22 lr hv, as well as just 22lr as some ranges i went to dont allow hv type ammo. I used ccl minimags last. i was told they are a high quality ammo?

the are 3 types of jams i am seeing.

 

1 - the gun fires, and the next bullet chambered sits lopsided inside preventing it from firing

2 - the casing is ejected and stuck in the ejection port half in half out

3 - 2 rounds will be in the chamber at the same time.

Minimags are good quality. It should not be jamming like that. I'd call ATI and possibly send it back again.

my question is that when i recieved the gun back, they stated it was cleaned and inspected and put 40 rounds through no problem. is it possible that the gun needs to be cleaned everytime i go to shoot it? could that be a problem? i just find it kind of weird i need to go to a range and after every 10 rounds clean the gun...

I have no experience with the ATI ak-variant rimfires, but I don't think a rifle should be cleaned that often. My 15-22 gets cleaned maybe every 1-2000 rounds

I would send it back and explain what's happening and they already serviced it

What ranges won't allow high velocity .22? Try purchasing some other brands of ammo and see how they run in your gun. CCI Mini Mags is quality stuff and my .22 ammo of choice but your gun may simply not like it. Before sending it back again I would buy a few boxes of various ammo brands to see if your gun runs any different.

i do not remember what the ranges were called but some ranges i spoke with claimed that high velocity ammo has a chance of penetrating the back wall... i have no idea where they got that though. any idea what other ammo would be a good choice beside the ccl minimags?

The difference between 22 lr HV and 22 lr standard velocity is only about 300 fps. CCI mini mags are the standard, but match 22lr ammo is much more consistent.

If Ur in the Jackson area I may bring my 15-22 and shotgun out tomorrow I have winchester m-22 rounds which u can try, they run flawlessly for me

CCI Mini-Mags are excellent and satisfy the most picky .22LR. I know, I own Bobcats.

 

For .22LR pistols, cleaning is religious for good, consistent, reliable function.

the are 3 types of jams i am seeing.

 

1 - the gun fires, and the next bullet chambered sits lopsided inside preventing it from firing

2 - the casing is ejected and stuck in the ejection port half in half out

3 - 2 rounds will be in the chamber at the same time.

 

Cleaning the gun after a few rounds is BS, the thing should run through a bulk box with maybe a few problem being it's a 22. Now there is a problem somewhere, and 22's are picky guns at times, some like CCI, some will like federal bulk, it all depends on what the gun likes. Try a bunch of different ammo first before you send it back and don't have it for a little while.

 

Also how many Mag's do you have for the gun, are all the mags having the same problems, if you only have 1 mag get another and see if you have the same problems. Some of the things said, it could also be a mag problem.

 

How many rounds are through the gun, some guns do need a break-in period.

 

When you clean the gun, how do you clean it, have you just run a patch through it and called it a day, or have you stripped the gun and cleaned everything. Also if you did strip it, how did all the parts look, rough surfaces, good fit, rough fit, etc??

 

What did you lube the gun with, liquid lube, grease, what were the temperatures when you were shooting it??

 

All things I would look into first before sending it back a second time.

- Clean the crap out of it so it looks brand new inside

- Lube

- Try a bunch of different ammo manufacturers

- See where you are at

 

Oh, and Harry's questions were all good questions but the mags could definitely be the issue. Are they aftermarket or factory? Do you have one or a few? If you have one, you HAVE to at least buy two more and see how they feed.

I would let someone else load the mags and shoot the gun. I'd suspect it's either sticky ammo or the way the mags are being loaded. With some 22s the loading of the magazines is critical. Move the follower down just enough for one round and then seat that round before loading the next one. Try mini-mags or the Tactical 22 ammo and see if they work better.