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Squirrel Problem

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Kinda gross cleaning up a splattered squirrel, don't you think?

 

From what I've heard.... a .177 makes a nice neat hole and results in very little, if any mess. Just pick it up with a shovel and bury it. You might see some blood in the grass until the next rainstorm.

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  • I have no comment for this..........................   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oly2S2NhF6c

  • I have a friend in Maine who humanely trap them and release them in the middle of the night in his local Walmart outside garden department where they store bird seed and such.

  • just lay on the ground and pretend your nuts, when they come over smash there friggin heads.

I have a friend in Maine who humanely trap them and release them in the middle of the night in his local Walmart outside garden department where they store bird seed and such.

 

My FIL used one of those humane traps for a couple tree rats that were tearing up cars on his property (runs an auto repair shop). Funny, I never thought that leaving the little bastards to starve in there for a few days was a very "humane" way to kill them, but if that's what the animal rights activists prefer to a bullet, then I guess they know better than I do. :spiteful:

A bowl of anti freeze will work.fine, if Ur neighbors have out side cats though I wouldn't suggest any type of poison baiting

So if ya cant use a .22...what do you shoot them with? Shotgun?

 

i was out pheasant hunting this year and i popped a squirrel about 20 yards away on a log chasing another after i hit it i looked and found it shredded

My FIL used one of those humane traps for a couple tree rats that were tearing up cars on his property (runs an auto repair shop). Funny, I never thought that leaving the little bastards to starve in there for a few days was a very "humane" way to kill them, but if that's what the animal rights activists prefer to a bullet, then I guess they know better than I do. :spiteful:

Oh my friend is not so much humane as much as he hates Walmart....In his words, "Those sob's treat their employees like animals so they should have no problem dealing with a dozen squirrels tearing through all their bird and grass seed".

I've been down this road already. Firearms of any kind are absolutely out of the question (except perhaps by farmers on their own land). Catch and relocate is not as easy as it sounds. Basically, you cannot catch and relocate anything without the approval of Fish and Game. And there are limitations on certain animals as to how far you can relocate them from the original sight from where they were caught.

 

The following quote is from an online pdf that I found which details the POLICY ON THE RELOCATION OF WILDLIFE per the State of NJ...

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"Nuisance Wildlife

 

Relocation of nuisance wildlife must be evaluated on a case by case basis. Whenever possible, habitat alteration (i.e., capping chimney) and education of the homeowner in order to allow release on site is encouraged. Failure to remedy the situation by using exclusionary devices or removing the attractant (i.e., garbage) will guarantee that the problem will continue even if the offending animal is removed. If release on site is not practical, relocation must follow the guidelines below.

 

Before relocating any adult wildlife during the spring and summer, a search for their newborn animals should be conducted. If found, these young must be relocated with the adults. Any trapped nuisance wildlife that appears to be injured or sick should be placed with a licensed wildlife rehabilitator for evaluation prior to release.

 

If release on site or relocation of a nuisance animal will create a new problem, euthanasia of the problem animals should be considered. Property owners and occupants of dwellings, or their agents in writing, may control property damage by lawful means when suffering such damage from squirrel, raccoon, opossum, skunk, weasel and woodchucks (N.J.A.C. 7:25-5.21). If euthanasia is found to be the only viable method of control, the above species may be euthanized according to the methods declared as acceptable or conditionally acceptable in the most recent report of the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) Guidelines on Euthanasia. The AVMA report states drowning is not an acceptable method of euthanasia. Other municipal and state laws apply.

 

Most other wildlife species are controlled by state and/or federal regulations and lethal control measures are regulated by the Division of Fish and Wildlife and in some cases, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service."

 

Department of Environmental Protection

Division of Fish and Wildlife, Trenton, NJ

 

(A copy of the AVMA Guidelines on Euthanasia can be found online as well)

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Even if you were to use a kill type trap ie. #110 conibear, which has no approved legal use on squirrels (at least none that I know of and I would appreciate if some would correct me if I'm wrong) and even if it were done legally... it can't be done openly in the public eye. The average person is not kill trap friendly and it may incur a lot of complaints from your neighbors etc. as well as criminal charges of animal cruelty.

FYI: kill type traps do not always provide an instant or speedy death and there are times in which to lessen the suffering of a trapped animal you may have hasten death in a humane but manual means. To some people squirrels are cute and fuzzy pets, to others they are pests and to some they are good eats. NJ makes it very difficult for home owners to control pest wildlife. (Just one more reason to move out of this state.) -Good luck.

 

Also, see this website for more info http://www.unexco.com/trapsquirrels.html

In defense of the squirrels, and at the risk of being a bleeding heart... I'm bothered by some of the responses in this thread.

 

It seems to me the solution is to get metal cans. You aren't eating them, they aren't posing a risk to you or your livelihood-- you aren't keeping livestock and these aren't coyotes, so IMO they should live.

 

If you must kill them, why would you make them suffer? Shooting them would be the best way to do it, but there's a good chance you cant do that in NJ. Trap it, snap its neck, cut its throat, whatever-- quick and (relatively) painless. But... drowning? A bowl of antifreeze? Seriously? Are you guys trying to come up with the most inhumane methods possible?

 

As for the attic with the frayed wires-- Well, things tend to live in attics. Things that chew. This will happen despite some of humans' best effort to keep them out and/or exterminate. There's no reason a wire carrying any significant amount of current should be hanging freely amongst the rafters-- run that **** through BX like it should have been. :)

 

Rant over!

Squirrels have done a lot of damage to my father's home, and did a ton of damage to my neighbor's AC unit(before one little bastard fried himself). They are indeed affecting my livelihood. I do, however, prefer killing them quickly with minimal suffering. Drowning and antifreeze are indeed cruel IMO.

Those who offered alternative solutions like drowning and antifreeze were doing so with the assumption that using firearms were not an option. I asked about the antifreeze, because I heard it will take care of homeowner issues whereas some friggin' cat decides to use the said homeowner's yard as a litter box. The nice thing about the antifreeze, as told by the person explaining this to me, is that the cats generally will die on someone else's property and not the property where it injested the antifreeze.

Squirrels have done a lot of damage to my father's home, and did a ton of damage to my neighbor's AC unit(before one little bastard fried himself). They are indeed affecting my livelihood. I do, however, prefer killing them quickly with minimal suffering. Drowning and antifreeze are indeed cruel IMO.

 

I agree. Either trap and let go or quickly...

Those who offered alternative solutions like drowning and antifreeze were doing so with the assumption that using firearms were not an option. I asked about the antifreeze, because I heard it will take care of homeowner issues whereas some friggin' cat decides to use the said homeowner's yard as a litter box. The nice thing about the antifreeze, as told by the person explaining this to me, is that the cats generally will die on someone else's property and not the property where it injested the antifreeze.

 

This is true. And as for poisoning the squirrels, it's probably on par with any of the other rodent poisons as far as efficacy is concerned. The problem is that it's sweet.

 

Cats, dogs, beavers, deer, anything with a sense of taste could drink it and die. And if that means your next door neighbor's wayward, less-than-bright kid...

What about the Deer and Rabbit spray, it woks well for them, might work for Squirrels..

Articles in the paper about people going after squirrels with pellet guns etc are common, you go to jail, cops go thru your house, sound like fun? and dont think about trap and drowning those squirrels, your neighbor will turn you in just for leaving squirrels in a trap too long, I recommend outside speakers blasting those voices of prominent democratic politicians giving speeches, it drives off squirrels as well as teenagers.

What about the Deer and Rabbit spray, it woks well for them, might work for Squirrels..

 

Sorry to say, I haven't heard of anything that will stop a determined squirrel. Somethings may work for a brief time but they soon figure it out and then they're back as bold as ever. Most neighborhood squirrels are so used to humans and their pets that they are not detered by the presence or smell of either. The only thing I've seen that might deter them from a yard or garden is a water sprayer that is activated by a motion sensor... but it's fairly expensive. (And there is no guarantee it will work.)

"Nj" wants you to PAY an exterminator to get rid of your pests. (Pay, Pay , Pay, that's all we ever do in this state.)

So if ya cant use a .22...what do you shoot them with? Shotgun?

 

To the best of my knowledge, if you are hunting squirrel in NJ it is done with a muzzleloading rifle only (.36 caliber or smaller loaded with a single projectile). And a rifle permit is needed.

 

 

To the best of my knowledge, if you are hunting squirrel in NJ it is done with a muzzleloading rifle only (.36 caliber or smaller loaded with a single projectile). And a rifle permit is needed.

 

Negative. Shotgun and a bow are allowed in season. There is a separate muzzle loading season during squirrel season.

Check the links in my previous posts in this thread.

Negative. Shotgun and a bow are allowed in season. There is a separate muzzle loading season during squirrel season.

Check the links in my previous posts in this thread.

 

O.K. I got it, I found it on page 62 of the General Small Game Hunting pdf. Thanks.

(I do remember a shotgun season now that I think about it. I just never realized that they would let you shoot such small game with a bow.) You'd have to be pretty close or an awful good shot. :)

 

But as far as rifle is concerned it would be muzzle loading only... correct?

 

 

But as far as rifle is concerned it would be muzzle loading only... correct?

 

That is correct. The way I read it is a homeowner that has no houses or occupied building within 150 feet of their house can take squirrel with a bow (and perhaps crossbow) as long as they are shooting from an elevated position and a properly licensed hunter.

O.K. I got it, I found it on page 62 of the General Small Game Hunting pdf. Thanks.

(I do remember a shotgun season now that I think about it. I just never realized that they would let you shoot such small game with a bow.) You'd have to be pretty close or an awful good shot. :)

 

But as far as rifle is concerned it would be muzzle loading only... correct?

 

I just started shooting a bow but I would be comfortable shooting one at 25yds and closer. Compound bows are stupid accurate nowadays.

One of the longest threads just on squirrels and the solution is metal cans. lol

The only problem with metal cans is that the garbage men seem to think that trash cans are beach balls or something and they end up all dented from being thrown 10 feet from the truck to the curb instead of placed back where they were taken from...

The only problem with metal cans is that the garbage men seem to think that trash cans are beach balls or something and they end up all dented from being thrown 10 feet from the truck to the curb instead of placed back where they were taken from...

Oh yeah! It's a sport. Btw, you ever noticed the bottom of your plastic cans have holes after you dragged them back & forth? You know why? Cause companies are evil. They purposely make the bottom thin (or not super thick) so you wear it out prematurely & need to go buy new ones.

 

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/slow-cooked-squirrel/

Whats the legal standing of blow guns in NJ? That would work well for your issues ;)

 

This suggestion didn't really catch on in the discussions so far, but I'm not seeing any legal issues with using a blow gun on your own property. It's one of those things that so simple in design, I can't imagine how they'd ban them. Also deals with the noise matter if someone makes the decision to go with a somewhat 'borderline' pest control solution.

This suggestion didn't really catch on in the discussions so far, but I'm not seeing any legal issues with using a blow gun on your own property. It's one of those things that so simple in design, I can't imagine how they'd ban them. Also deals with the noise matter if someone makes the decision to go with a somewhat 'borderline' pest control solution.

 

again, there is a squirrel season in NJ. As such, if you do not follow the hunting guidleines while taking them you are breaking the law, or if you follow the guildleines but take them out of season you are poaching.

 

Air rifles are stricly illegal for hunting anythin in NJ.

Blow guns are not specificaly allowed.

 

In both cases, illegal.

again, there is a squirrel season in NJ. As such, if you do not follow the hunting guidleines while taking them you are breaking the law, or if you follow the guildleines but take them out of season you are poaching.

 

Air rifles are stricly illegal for hunting anythin in NJ.

Blow guns are not specificaly allowed.

 

In both cases, illegal.

 

True, but there is a provision for dispatching nuisance varmints that are causing damage.

 

 

True, but there is a provision for dispatching nuisance varmints that are causing damage.

 

Yes but those methods have to be within the legal guidelines set forth in the hunting laws, trapping laws, relocation laws and euthanasia laws. It isn't a blank check, so to speak.

This is ridiculous, kill the friggen bushy tailed rats with a hammer!

This is ridiculous, kill the friggen bushy tailed rats with a hammer!

 

Ask my wife and kids what I do when I see them on the street.......... ;)

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I love how this thread keeps going. Metal trash cans and repellant gotchya, NO firearms/airsoft/trap&release/pellet guns all illegal/inhumane.

Oh yeah! It's a sport. Btw, you ever noticed the bottom of your plastic cans have holes after you dragged them back & forth? You know why? Cause companies are evil. They purposely make the bottom thin (or not super thick) so you wear it out prematurely & need to go buy new ones.

 

http://allrecipes.co...ooked-squirrel/

 

Mine don't, they have wheels :p.

 

Then again they had handles too... one landing in winter on the handle will take care of that though, most only have 1 handle now. They are full of holes from the damned tree rats and racoons/opossums/who knows what else though.

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