Yeah I was going to say that but you already ordered. I'd call and ask them to change it before it ships.

 

Depending on what die set you ordered you may or may not have ordered a separate taper crimp die. Def do that if you didnt already

I read that this is usable on Dillon presses, but I am unsure how. I have four die setup. 1) sizing, 2) powder 3) seating 4) crimp. Is this only for setups where seating and crimping are done at the same time and there is an unused opening for a die? It looks like the Dillon 650 has a spot for an extra die (5 holes, as opposed to 4 on my 550B).

I got this die set, says the seater also does a taper crimp. From reading the reviews, they say it is a little more complex to set up, but once you have it locked in , it is good to go.

 

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/682035/hornady-custom-grade-new-dimension-nitride-3-die-set-with-taper-crimp-9mm-luger

I knew the LnL kit needed additional dies & shell plate but i assumed it came with at least 5 die bushings.

It's odd that they wouldn't include them since they are not caliber specific.

Oops, well I have an extra set of 3 then.

Oops, well I have an extra set of 3 then.

No i think you're right. I can't seem to find a list of included parts in the kit.

Maybe Babaganooshypuss can confirm this.

You are right futool.

 

" the press comes complete with a Lock-N-Load powder measure, rifle and pistol metering assemblies, case activated powder drop, cartridge catcher, primer pick-up tubes, and 5 Lock-N-Load Bushings, so the only thing left to purchase is the easy access shellplate, dies, and any additional bushings you'll need. "

 

Ohwell, I'm sure having a spare set of 3 will come in handy eventually.

The 550 is 4? I wish i had a 6 die setup. I uae a separate crimp, and lockout die, would love one more for bullet feeder.

 

 

You are right futool.

 

" the press comes complete with a Lock-N-Load powder measure, rifle and pistol metering assemblies, case activated powder drop, cartridge catcher, primer pick-up tubes, and 5 Lock-N-Load Bushings, so the only thing left to purchase is the easy access shellplate, dies, and any additional bushings you'll need. "

 

Ohwell, I'm sure having a spare set of 3 will come in handy eventually.

They most definitely will. The next set of dies you get will need them so they wont go to waste.

 

The 550 is 4? I wish i had a 6 die setup. I uae a separate crimp, and lockout die, would love one more for bullet feeder.

+1! i wish i had 6 as well. Mostly so that i could run the bullet feeder without having to make the powder drop double as a flaring die. Hell, make it 7 so i can seat and crimp separately as well!

I have yet to load rifle on my progressive. However when I start I'm going to run one case at a time thru the press until I get rifle loading down. Thats why I think it's good to go with a progressive. You can run it so you can pump out a round each time, or when learning you can run one thru at a time mimicking a single stage press without having to keep swapping dies and having a separate powder measure.

 

Not a fan of only 1 station being filled at a time, not sure how it is on your L-N-L but I know on my 650 I will get different OAL's with only 2 station VS all stations working. Now probably not a problem if you only use 1 station all the way through 5 stages before you load another piece of brass, but on my 650 I would only use 1 primer and pass by multiple primers in between.

The 550 is 4? I wish i had a 6 die setup. I uae a separate crimp, and lockout die, would love one more for bullet feeder.

 

I see a 1050 in your future..

Not a fan of only 1 station being filled at a time, not sure how it is on your L-N-L but I know on my 650 I will get different OAL's with only 2 station VS all stations working. Now probably not a problem if you only use 1 station all the way through 5 stages before you load another piece of brass, but on my 650 I would only use 1 primer and pass by multiple primers in between.

 

Its not an issue on the LnL. Each Die is secured independently of each other as compared to the singular toolhead of the Dillon. This way, whether you run 1, 2 or all 5, one die will never influence the others. I do recall seeing something for the Dillon that will pull the slop out of the toolhead though but i forget what it was... maybe an aftermarket toolhead with some way to snug it up some more or something like that.

Its not an issue on the LnL. Each Die is secured independently of each other as compared to the singular toolhead of the Dillon. This way, whether you run 1, 2 or all 5, one die will never influence the others. I do recall seeing something for the Dillon that will pull the slop out of the toolhead though but i forget what it was... maybe an aftermarket toolhead with some way to snug it up some more or something like that.

 

Thanks for the info, while I did look at the L-n-L I guess I didn't look that close to see that when making my decision. Yes there is an aftermarket system to take some of the slop out and I'll probably be picking one up to see how it really does help. In theory and from another person on the forum it does what it's supposed to do.

I do get a very small difference in OAL when I don't have all the stations full vs one station full, but the difference is consistent. It's about .08 when I load 9mm. If I just keep loading one round all the way thru the OAL is consistent. I would just adjust the seating die a tiny bit if i wanted to run a case in every station. I guess I will find out eventually when I load rifle.

 

I'd like 6 stations myself. I'd like to separate the powder drop and belling operations into 2 separate stations. I do normally but since I added the bullet feeder you need a station for the bullet feeder die. With the bullet feeder die I can't use a powdercop or lockout die.

 

Oh and the LNL won't spit a new primer out until the one in the station is used up. So running one rifle case thru won't spit primers everywhere.

I see a 1050 in your future..

 

Beat me to it!

How many stations is the 1050?

8!

Oh boy.

Oh boy.

 

You know who to talk to when you sell the LnL.

Oh and the LNL won't spit a new primer out until the one in the station is used up. So running one rifle case thru won't spit primers everywhere.

 

Very cool, thats a nice feature..

 

 

 

Very cool, thats a nice feature..

 

If someone built a press combining the best of the dillon and the best of the LnL they would create the best press ever.

If someone built a press combining the best of the dillon and the best of the LnL they would create the best press ever.

 

Thats a fact, one thing that I really like about the Hornady is the 1/2 station rotation on each half stroke, the Dillon only advanced a full station at a time, and if you move quick it snaps and can spill powder, now I cut a little bit of the shell plate spring so it's smoother but the Hornady is still smoother from what I have scene.

 

 

Thats a fact, one thing that I really like about the Hornady is the 1/2 station rotation on each half stroke, the Dillon only advanced a full station at a time, and if you move quick it snaps and can spill powder, now I cut a little bit of the shell plate spring so it's smoother but the Hornady is still smoother from what I have scene.

 

I believe there is a roller kit or something to fix that. If I run across it I'll send you the link

Thanks Brian..