Hi all,

I've been waiting since the first week of October for a change of address in Bergen county. My references received thier forms pretty quickly, and mailed them back in.

NJSP say they've returned morpho results to my local PD on 11/7/11, but also stated they've received nothing from the local PD.

I don't want to be "lawyer guy" but

I've contacted my local dept, and can't get a phone call returned, is there anything a lawyer can do that I cant?

Any recommendations?

Have you tried going there personally?

Hi all,

I've been waiting since the first week of October for a change of address in Dumont, Bergen county. My references received thier forms pretty quickly, and mailed them back in.

NJSP say they've returned morpho results to my local PD on 11/7/11, but also stated they've received nothing from the local PD.

I don't want to be "lawyer guy" but

I've contacted my local dept, and can't get a phone call returned, is there anything a lawyer can do that I cant?

Any recommendations?

if anyones going to suggest contacting my representative, it Frank lautenberg, so that doesn't really help!

I know somebody who did a change of address, said it took 6 months ( forget what township it was though )

Definitely go down in person. Dress in business casual if you can and be polite. A good appearance and manners go a long way.

Go down in person. If they arent helpful ask for the chief. If he isn't helpful make an appt to talk to the mayor. Be polite but persistant.

Have you tried going there personally?

I went in person to ask why they didn't take my yellow mental health form, and the officer in charge responded "you don't need it"

I told him if there was anything he needed from me to help make things easier for him, please let me know. To put it mildly, he was not receptive!

I'm cautious about going back now, I don't want to cause "bottom of the pile" syndrome, lol

So you've gone down to the PD in person, and no luck. About all I can suggest is to first talk to the mayor. If that doesn't work, contact the NJSP and explain to them what is going on and that your town is not following procedure. Be polite but firm.

I would ask to speak with the chief , if they refuse let them you you will be making an appointment with the mayor. That worked for me when my change of address FID was taking too long at the municipality I moved to. They immediately told me it should be done tomorrow and somehow it got set aside, etc, blah blah.

I went in person to ask why they didn't take my yellow mental health form, and the officer in charge responded "you don't need it"

I told him if there was anything he needed from me to help make things easier for him, please let me know. To put it mildly, he was not receptive!

I'm cautious about going back now, I don't want to cause "bottom of the pile" syndrome, lol

When I applied for my FID and pistol permits I waited several months. After the first 30 days elapsed I periodically called the town employee that handled the paperwork and also called the officer in charge of completing the background investigation, usually resulting in leaving voice mail. Never got a callback.

 

As a last resort I sent an email to the Chief of Police politely stating chronologically what had transpired to date. No joke, within an hour after hitting the return key I received a phone call from the officer doing the background checks saying that my FID and pistol permits were ready to be picked up.

Squeaky wheel is more apt to happen than bottom of the pile, honestly.

 

Last time for permits I was at 45 days and I was getting the typical "don't call us, we'll send you a letter when it's ready spiel". I sent an email to the mayor. He responded within 24 hours that he was out of town but would look into this when he got back. Early the next week I got a letter in the mail. I corresponded back with the mayor to thank him "IF" he had said something to them - and he indicated he had.

 

Funny - guess what happened this time when I put in permits? 24 days!! So - be the squeaky wheel. It doesn't hurt if you are the same political party as the mayor either...

I also called NJSP @ 609-882-2000 x2060

and spoke with a couple I very helpful women, is there another number, or someone I should ask for? They basically told me they couldn't understand what the problem was, but couldn't really help, and told me to have my PD call them-

back to square one!

Order of steps. Escalate to the next step if the current one does not help and/or the individual is not sympathetic.

1) Make an appointment with the chief. If you can't get one, e-mail him and wait for response.

2) Make an appointment with the mayor. If you can't get one, e-mail him and wait for response.

3) Contact your local assemblymen and state senator and make a appointments. If you can't get one, e-mail them and wait for response.

 

Escalation is the key. At some point, pressure will be applied to the local PD holding you back.

Thanks everyone,

this forum is such a great resource!

I'm going in person again today to see if I can get a face to face with the officer, see how that goes,

from there, I'll start escalating

(insert "poor me" emoticon)

Document dates and the names of everyone you talked to, even a quick description of what was said.

with my FID, i called the NJSP(were state patrolled), and on the 60th day they were waiting on paperwork from Washington. on the 90th day the superintendent was on vacation and needed to review the file.

 

on the 110th day i called and said that i spoke to edwin nappen, and two days later i got the call saying my stuff was ready for pickup.

How did you make out with the 1/31 visit?

Stopped in person and spoke with the desk officer, told him id be gla to help if there was anything they needed from me (super polite the whole way for me)

the captain who is in charge of permits wasn't around. (shocker)

He made a call to someone when I explained its been 4 months and said to the person on the other end, "it's on HIS desk?" hangs up and says I'll get a call when it's ready, if there had been an issue with the app, I'd have been notified

gonna give it one more week and start drafting a letter to the chief, and mayor

Fired this off today, so nervous I feel like I'm gonna puke

Is it polite enough? LOL

 

Chief XXXXXXX

Good afternoon, My name and I'm a with a question I'm hoping you can help me resolve.

I had dropped off a form to change the address on my NJ firearms ID card in early October, and was told to bring the required "SB-66"Consent for Mental Health Records to fingerprinting center.

Once there, the staff instructed me to bring the form back to my police department.

On 11/5/11, I was able to speak with the officer in charge of handling my application, and  was told that form "SB-66"

would not be necessary.

After waiting 90 days, I placed a call to follow up and see if there was anything I needed to do to help this process, and was told that the NJSP had not returned any of the necessary information. Upon contacting the NJSP firearms unit, they stated that the results of my fingerprinting had been processed and sent on 11/7/11, regarding my application as of late January. 

If this delay in processing is due to a mistake I've made in the application, I would be glad to have

Too nice. Just short of groveling.

Why would fingerprinting or mental health checks need to be done for a change of address on the FID card?

 

Now, if you moved from my area to Dumont, I could see the mental health check.

 

But seriously, what does it matter if someone moves from one town to another in this state?

 

Should be able to give the local PD the old card and pickup the new one in less than a week.

 

Good luck, just total BS in this state.

Too nice. Just short of groveling.

Oh, REAL HELPFUL BOB!

sorry, just kiddin!

less than 2 hours later....

a phone call from my PD, everything should be ready by Friday!!

 

Too nice. Just short of groveling.

 

+1.

Happy to hear it worked out for you. Hopefully it greased the skids for next time around too.

+1.

Happy to hear it worked out for you. Hopefully it greased the skids for next time around too.

+1 to you sir!

(even though you +1'd Pizza Bob basically calling me a big pansy! :fugg: )

Your "order of steps" post should be pinned, very much appreciated

+1 to you sir!

(even though you +1'd Pizza Bob basically calling me a big pansy! )

Your "order of steps" post should be pinned, very much appreciated

 

Thanks. At some point I decided I was more pissed off at illegal roadblocks to my rights than I was worried about what the PD would do if they were pissed at me for "hassling" them for demanding those rights. I have come to believe that local PD inertia/laziness/lack of resources has as much to do with our problems as anti-gun attitudes from above, and an occasional nudge works wonders.

 

PizzaBob and I are a mutual appreciation society. We have to keep each others ratings up to negate all the haters.