I am wondering what everyone uses for guns games? I am mostly thinking about 9mm and 45acp as that is mainly what I shoot. I have recently purchased some 9mm 147 gr. FMJ rounds but I havent shot them yet. I have mainly shot 115 gr. FMJ but after doing some research a lot of people are saying the heavier the bullet the more accurate. I am fairly new to 45 acp and there doesn't seem to be as much choice in bullet weight. It seems as though 230 gr. is the main bullet that most manufacturers use. SO let me know what you sue for Steel, USPSA and any other gun game!!

I use 124 grain pretty much exclusively. Drops steel much better than 115, but still priced pretty well.

I also use 124gr for 9mm... 124gr Montana Gold JHP on top of WIN 231 powder.

For my 45 I use Remington 45 acp nickel plated 230 gr. I have never had a FTF and it tends to burn cleaner then others I have tried.

I'm kinda all over the place. Started with 115gr 9mm. Then 124gr. Now 147gr.

The heavier the bullet the less power you can/should use and can get some

soft shooting loads. It's not really one is more accurate than the other, but rather

sometimes the heavier bullet can be made to have less muzzle rise and softer

recoil making YOU more accurate.

 

For 45ACP I've mainly used 200gr. I want to try some 250gr though and see if

I feel a difference with less powder.

 

I think what I ultimately want to do is commit to one bullet weight, shape, and then

just change the charge for different types of shooting. I'm tired of messing with

my dies and ordering different reload components.

I used 147 gr bullets today and had nothing but problems with my CZ-75. The slide would lock in battery and I had to play with it and really force it to rack. I could pull the trigger and nothing happened. Some other times it wouldn't go into battery and it would still be hard to rack the slide. I thought it was the mags but after ruling them out and everything else. I was talking to another shooter and he said he had seen that sometimes the higher grain bullets would be a little longer and wouldn't seat correctly into the barrel. When he showed me what he meant by pulling the barrel out and putting a bullet into it, the 147gr. round seated tighter in it and kinda stuck. The 124 gr. and 115 gr and even the ASYM 147gr. rounds seated nicely and came out without any resistance. So after changing to 124gr. or 115gr bullets all went well. I tried to explain this as good as possible so I hope anyone who reads this understands what happened. It seemed that all 147gr. with round nose had this problems. Anyone else ever see this? These were all factory rounds not reloads.

I am wondering what everyone uses for guns games? I am mostly thinking about 9mm and 45acp as that is mainly what I shoot. I have recently purchased some 9mm 147 gr. FMJ rounds but I havent shot them yet. I have mainly shot 115 gr. FMJ but after doing some research a lot of people are saying the heavier the bullet the more accurate. I am fairly new to 45 acp and there doesn't seem to be as much choice in bullet weight. It seems as though 230 gr. is the main bullet that most manufacturers use. SO let me know what you sue for Steel, USPSA and any other gun game!!

 

I had read this from Chuck Hawk some time ago and have stayed away from 147 pretty much. I did try a couple of boxes to make sure my gun would eat them.

 

http://www.chuckhawk...y_anonymous.htm

 

"9mm Parabellum (9mm Luger,9x19mm, 9mm NATO, or simply "9mm")

 

This is unquestionably the world's most popular pistol round. For this reason it has been the subject of a lot of experimentation, because 9mm ball - used by every army in the Western world - is a mediocre manstopper. Jacketed hollowpoints are a must if one wishes to rely on the 9mm as a defense round. Use ball ammo for practice only.

 

9mm ammunition is available in two pressure levels: standard and "+P." The latter should only be used in newer guns (made since 1985 or so), and is best used sparingly. I will deal here with only commercially available ammunition: there are specialized loads available only to law enforcement personnel. Civilians should not worry, as there are commercial loads as good or better than anything restricted to law enforcement usage.

 

I will now tell you the best 9mm Luger load for self-defense: it is the Cor-Bon 9mm 115 grain +P Jacketed Hollowpoint. This is the most powerful and street-proven manstopper available in this caliber. It is a high velocity (1340 fps) and high pressure round, and more effective than any load restricted to law enforcement use (such as the Federal 9BPLE).

 

Unfortunately, it is also likely to jam many older guns. For this reason I add a table at the end of the 9mm section discussing round suitability for different guns. Modern hollowpoints may either (a) jam, or (b) be too powerful for some older guns. This load is suitable only for First Class pistols (see table).

The best standard pressure 9mm load is the Federal 115 grain JHP (9BP). Its effectiveness and accuracy make it the world standard. Buy several boxes. Other excellent standard pressure 9mm loads are the Winchester Silvertip 115 grain (X9MMSHP), and Federal 124 grain Hydra-shok (P9HS1).

For guns that may jam with the Cor-Bon or Federal 115 grain hollow-points, the Remington 115 grain +P JHP is a good choice (R9MM6). For older guns I would use the Remington standard pressure 115 gr. JHP (R9MM1).

 

Bad 9mm Loads to avoid (and certainly NEVER carry). Numbers given:

Federal Gold Medal 9mm 147 grain JHP (9MS)

Federal Hydra-Shok 9mm 147 grain JHP (P9HS2)

Winchester 147 grain 9mm Silvertip Subsonic JHP (X9MMST147)

Winchester 147 grain 9mm Super-X Subsonic (XSUB9MM)

Remington 147 grain 9mm JHP (R9MM8)

Remington 147 grain 9mm Golden Saber JHP (GS9MMC)

Remington 140 grain 9mm JHP (R9MM7)

Remington 88 grain 9mm JHP (R9MM5) This bullet is far too light.

CCI Lawman 147 grain 9mm PHP "Plated Hollow Point" (3619)

 

Table Of 9mm Pistols.

(Note: just because your pistol appears in Class 3, say, doesn't mean it is unreliable: it may indeed feed hollowpoints. But you must fire at least 200 rounds of your chosen JHP carry load to determine if your pistol will feed them properly. I have placed pistols in each category according to reputation and experience. These are only meant as guidelines - your pistol may feed JHP rounds better - or worse - than this table indicates)

 

First Class pistols are ultra-reliable and high-quality new guns than can feed any hollowpoint and tolerate +P loads with no problems: SIG/Sauer P220 series. Czech CZ75 and CZ85. Walther P5, P5C, and P88. Heckler and Koch USP and P7 series. All Glocks. All Ruger 9mm pistols. Taurus PT-99, PT-92 and PT-92C. Steyr GB. Beretta 92 series. Browning BDM and Hi-Power (if it says "Portugal" on the slide). All Smith & Wessons with a four-digit model number (e.g. 5906, 3913, 6904, 5903) and the Smith & Wesson 900 series. Star M28, M30, M31, and all Firestars, Megastars, and Ultrastars.

 

Second Class pistols are high quality guns that may not feed all hollowpoints reliably. Remington 115 gr. hollowpoints are recommended for these guns: Smith & Wessons with two or three digit model numbers (e.g. 659, 39-2, 469, 59, 39). Heckler and Koch VP70 and P9S. Beretta "Brigadier" M1951 and the Egyptian copy, the Interarms "Helwan." Colt M2000 "All-American" (now discontinued, for good reason), Colt Series 70 Government Model, Series 70 Commander. Astra A-70, A-75 and A-100. AMT "On Duty." Daewoo. Bersa 'Thunder 9'. EAA Witness, and all other CZ-75 copies (e.g. Tanfoglio, Tanarmi, Springfield Armory P9). Taurus PT-908. Walther P4. Star BK, BKM, Model B and 'Super.' Browning Hi-Powers without the word "Portugal" on the slide. Llama Model 82. IMI "Jericho" and "Kareen."

 

Third Class pistols should generally be loaded with ball for best reliability - experiment with your gun extensively before carrying JHP: Walther P38, P4 or P1. Luger. Llama. Maverick. MKS Model JS. Intratec CAT-9, DC-9, KG-9, etc. SWD Cobray Model 11/9 and similar models. Scarab Scorpion. Kimel AP-9. Bryco Jennings Model 59. All KBI Hungarian pistols (e.g. GKK, PJ9C, P9HK and other "FEG" products). "Norinco" or "Sportarms" Chinese Tokarev pistols. Lahti. Radom. MAB P15 and Model 1950."

Nice information Rifleman1.. Would like to see where Hornady CD ammo ranked, and also would have like to see him do a full breakdown for the .40 S&W like he did with the 9mm.

Nice information Rifleman1.. Would like to see where Hornady CD ammo ranked, and also would have like to see him do a full breakdown for the .40 S&W like he did with the 9mm.

 

 

The AR15.com site has some more info on the .40S&W:

 

http://ammo.ar15.com/project/Self_Defense_Ammo_FAQ/index.htm

 

Item 3 covers pistol ammunition with lists of acceptable ammo by caliber and also a summary by manufacturer including few Hornady.

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