<Had to start a new thread. I was begining to feel I was derailng the original post.>

 

I whole heartedly agree that an individual does not need an FPID to buy a handgun, they only need a P2P. -You go to a gun shop (or whatever) you give them your P2P you pay for the handgun and you're done.

 

Having said that, my question reverts to the application to get the P2P. It's been my experience thus far, that I need to supply my FPID number on the application to get the P2P. For each of the handguns we purchased in the last year, the P2P's were issued with the FPID numbers on them already.

 

If you already have an FPID and you are just getting P2P's, what do you put in Block 15 "N.J. FIREARMS ID CARD/SBI NUMBER" of form STS-33,?

Do you leave it blank? Do you put in your FPID number? (I don't know how I would get the SBI number since I get the forms as a package and the SBI hasn't been sent in yet.) For that matter, has anyone gotten a P2P who didn't't have an FPID?

 

I'm just curious. Does everyone do it this way?

Block 15 "N.J. FIREARMS ID CARD/SBI NUMBER" of form STS-33 - If you have your FID Card put in your number(Your FID # and SBI # are one in the same). If you don't have your FID when you apply for your P2P you should be applying for both and you would leave Block 15 empty.(Unless you know your SBI# from a previous background/licensing process)

 

Although it may not be required to get an FID at the time of your first P2P, it does not make sense not to, especially if you plan on every purchasing ammo for your pistols in NJ.

I was under the impression that you have to have an FPID to get a HPP (P2P, as has been noted here). The only exception is when you initially apply for your FPID, you can apply for HPPs at the same time.

 

Edit: I'll leave my original post, but I'm adding that now that I reread the OP, I think I misunderstood his question the first time. Move along, nothing to read here.

The law basically has two arms for purchase. The P2P for handguns and the FID for longguns. I once thought you needed a FID to get a P2P but was told I was wrong so reread the law several times. The law is clear that they are separate things. I purchased 3 handguns at 3 separate stores. Two stores did not ask for my FID. One store did. I asked him why and I got some arragant "I wouldn't ask for it if I didnt' need it." reply.

 

It just makes more sense to get the FID.

I asked the NJSP Firearms Investigation Unit some time ago. The answer was you leave the block blank if you don't have an FID card. Of course, that does not mean that your PD knows that.