Looks like a good size order is going down for SCARS of each type. I hear production is going to be entirely consumed by mil contracts for a while....

 

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=25398bbee12496a7a88b87b3123b2d3e&tab=core&_cview=0

Maybe after they make some profit and recoup developmental costs on these things, they will be more affordable in the future.

My buddy in Wyoming just got one - guess he's lucky he made it under the wire.

 

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Already TOO scarce in my safe

Already TOO scarce in my safe

 

Right. Only evil black guns I have that actually shoot right now are a coupple ARs and a subgun. Not even a $500 Century HK. Certainly nothing SCARish.

Meh... I don't see the value of owning a SCAR in NJ... For the cost of one of those, I can get a post-recall ACR with a pencil thin barrel from ADCO and have the same thing... not that I'd do that either any time soon.

Same how? the ACR hasn come anywhere remotely close to the testing the SCAR has been through, isnt adopted for service anywhere, and has no battle proven history behind it. If you cant justify the SCAR because this is NJ, then it doesnt make sense to me you could justify a reworked ACR???

Same how? the ACR hasn come anywhere remotely close to the testing the SCAR has been through, isnt adopted for service anywhere, and has no battle proven history behind it. If you cant justify the SCAR because this is NJ, then it doesnt make sense to me you could justify a reworked ACR???

 

Same in the sense that they're both folding stock piston driven 5.56 shooters. Battle proven history is a bit meaningless to me as a civilian, especially seeing as SCARs themselves have issues from time to time (as do ARs, AKs, ACRs, XCRs, etc), but from what I've gathered, despite a few flawed specimens, the ACR is a reliable platform. If it works, it works, if it doesn't it goes RMA or on the marketplace.

 

The nice thing about the ACR is that I can buy one, get it reworked with the stuff I want, and still come out cheaper than a SCAR in the end. I mean, from my (engineering) perspective, the only major difference between the two is the barrel profile and twist. And even though there are limited accessories for the ACR, there are still more out there than what is available for the SCAR.

 

It's simply a matter of the added value in relation to cost...

Everyone in general wants the newest "battle" rifle. I remember when I had friends go out and buy AR's in 6.8, because Special Forces use them. Now they cant get rid of them.

Everyone in general wants the newest "battle" rifle. I remember when I had friends go out and buy AR's in 6.8, because Special Forces use them. Now they cant get rid of them.

 

That's because they got some weird off-caliber rifle. Usually if you own something more 'mainstream' it'll hold value better. SCARs definitely sell well even if used... ACRs also tend to command decent premiums when used too.

The battle proven part does mean something to me because simply if they perform well there, then I can expect the same. Same thing for rifle systems that hold up well in hard use classes. Personally I dont chase new, I chase what I view as worthy improvement or inovation. And although new, I like a lot of the inovations of the new Beretta. But as usual I wont bepaying the early adopter tax. I will wait and see how it holds up and tap my inside scources for the scoop. Odds are if I buy it, I have inside info from behind the fence on how well it did As for the ACR, I like the look, but I really dislike the handling.

The battle proven part does mean something to me because simply if they perform well there, then I can expect the same. Same thing for rifle systems that hold up well in hard use classes. Personally I dont chase new, I chase what I view as worthy improvement or inovation. And although new, I like a lot of the inovations of the new Beretta. But as usual I wont bepaying the early adopter tax. I will wait and see how it holds up and tap my inside scources for the scoop. Odds are if I buy it, I have inside info from behind the fence on how well it did

 

Don't forget the "SOCOM tax" for some of these rifles as well... I hear H&K loves to pull that crap with their crap. Make one popular stamped steel sub machine gun, and all of a sudden you poo gold. Personally, from a design P.O.V., the ACR is overpriced for no good reason. The entire rifle, from raw materials to final product, is easier to build (or of similar difficulty) than an AR-15. Same is probably true of a SCAR... though I've never disassembled one and looked at the parts.

 

Anyways... the point I was trying to make is that the ACR is a higher value, lower cost alternate to a SCAR... even if you gotta buy a new barrel for it, shave down the ambi-safety, and get some metal BUIS on it... Then again, I'd wait for an ACR V2 to come out... then wait a few years till the price on that drops.

One of the things that swayed me to the SCAR was an entire, very detailed failure analysis done by a freind of mine that does this type of analysis for a living. The other was another guy I know who dumped 5k rounds through his without cleaning it...ever. Carbon oosed out of every orrafice!

One of the things that swayed me to the SCAR was an entire, very detailed failure analysis done by a freind of mine that does this type of analysis for a living. The other was another guy I know who dumped 5k rounds through his without cleaning it...ever. Carbon oosed out of every orrafice!

 

Just the SCAR or AR-15 as well? I think you mentioned this before... did you happen to post it anywhere?

Both. I did, Ill see if I can dig it up again...

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=62889

I love my SCAR-17, but my love Shane's SCAR-16 even more!

-if you never picked one up or shot it, then you dont know what ur missing!

I love my SCAR-17, but my love Shane's SCAR-16 even more!

-if you never picked one up or shot it, then you dont know what ur missing!

 

what are the differences between the 2?

.308Win vs. .223Rem

SCAR16 has alot lighter recoil & the rifle itself seems alot lighter.

the weight difference was quite noticable when comparing the two sisde-by-side.

=a very nice shooting toy!

 

-compliments of Shane45!

Everyone in general wants the newest "battle" rifle. I remember when I had friends go out and buy AR's in 6.8, because Special Forces use them. Now they cant get rid of them.

 

Not me. I want FAL, HK-91, Go(lani), AR-180, I would settle for the decent copies. Just not enought money to buy everything I want. And, they will be unobtainable soon.

stuff that I want isnt avail in the PRNJ!