http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=znqFTG7kqgw#!

If she is legal then I smell lawsuit.

 

If someone came to my door with a chainsaw they ain't gonna like the buckshot ripping their body apart..............

 

Not sure what my wife will be shooting them full-of while I'm reloading. It would make a hell of a mess though..........

I think if you did shoot it would be the last thing you ever did.

Not until they are inside the threshold.

This is a good case for target identification

Hopefully they are identifying themselves loud enough to be heard over the chainsaw

I think if you did shoot it would be the last thing you ever did.

 

Very unfortunate situation that the feds put you in.

Sooner or later this is going to end very bad for the homeowner and law enforcement. Who does there intell to hit the wrong house? I love the fact they just leave and go and knock the other guys door down. No chainsaw just kick in the other guys door. You can't make this stuff up

AP slugs and I`ll take my best shot (s)

yes

Feds:1- Fourth Amendment:0

Yea, with a mossberg chainsaw!!!

You betcha............

have you seen my Saiga 12..

knock on my door with a chainsaw.. and expect the drum fed 12 gauge to knock back at you.. FBI or not.. piled up on a door with a drum fed 12 gauge on the other side is not going to end well for them (or me obviously)..

but at the end of the day it certainly wont be my fault..

No, the 480V wire in my door would take care of em.

have you seen my Saiga 12..

knock on my door with a chainsaw.. and expect the drum fed 12 gauge to knock back at you.

 

If this happened to a lot of us it might have ended differently. As you all know something like this can happen very quickly, I'm not sure how It would have turned out but I know if I had time and reacted they would have been met with me letting them know I am armed and ready to shoot. How they take that being they originally thought they were in the right place would have reacted. I just know this could escalate into someone getting hurt real bad or killed for a mistake.

 

Now really, how many of you would be armed and ready, and what do you think would happen. I know I would hope that me identifying that I am armed and a response of them identifying who they are would diffuse this situation, but in a heat of the moment it's hard to say how things would end up.

No, I HOPE wouldn't shoot.

 

I HOPE I'd wait until the door was breached, and hesitate for a half-second to evaluate the situation.

 

I wouldn't expect burglars to chainsaw my door down.

Russian mob...maybe.

Now really, how many of you would be armed and ready, and what do you think would happen. I know I would hope that me identifying that I am armed and a response of them identifying who they are would diffuse this situation, but in a heat of the moment it's hard to say how things would end up.

 

cutting through a door with a chainsaw takes more than a split second.. and my guns are within arms reach most of the time... if I were sitting on the couch watching TV and all of the sudden heard a chainsaw fire up.. yeah I might grab my shotgun.. and well once that chainsaw started to poke through my door I am probably not going to assume it is the FBI.. that is like some horror movie stuff.. ram the door and yell to identify yourself.. as someone else pointed out.. would I even hear them over a chainsaw?

As stated before, I think this would have ended differently for many of us. I know I would have grabbed my 870. Whether or not I shot I don't know until I'm in that situation, which hopefully would be never. I can guarantee that they would be staring down the barrel of it though, which would more than likely end in me getting shot and killed.

I would love to talk to the genius that thought the chainsaw was the best entry tool. Our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan didn't carry around Stihls for entry, they breached the correct way. Just really makes no sense. If it was the gang bangers house, that gives him plenty of warning and ample time to arm himself and line up a shot. Just purely idiotic. Pisses me off

A) You assume it's a bad guy with chain saw. You shoot. FBI shoots back. Kills you. Maybe your wife, too.

 

B) You assume it's incompetent FBI. They pay to fix your door. Life goes on.

 

 

Better to wait for full target identification.

Seriously, why did the fbi use a chainsaw? All she would've had to do is throw a blanket on the blade.The D.A. fbi agent wood (pun intended) have had the saw stuck in the door. A chainsaw? I just don't get it.

Seriously, why did the fbi use a chainsaw? All she would've had to do is throw a blanket on the blade.The D.A. fbi agent wood (pun intended) have had the saw stuck in the door. A chainsaw? I just don't get it.

 

The only thing, and I'm reaching, is that they were trying to flush the guy they were after out of his apartment.

I believe we've heard stories of gang members kicking down doors and yelling "Police!" to keep the residents from defending themselves before they knew what was going on.

 

That being said....I can guarantee that the FBI, or any other law enforcement agency, has absolutely no reason to be knocking on my door....let alone knocking it down. If I hear someone trying to forcefully enter into my house, bet your a** I'll be prepared for them on the other side.

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Time to invest in a steel door.

A) You assume it's a bad guy with chain saw. You shoot. FBI shoots back. Kills you. Maybe your wife, too.

 

B) You assume it's incompetent FBI. They pay to fix your door. Life goes on.

 

 

Better to wait for full target identification.

 

The flip side is

 

 

A) You assume it's a bad guy with chain saw. You shoot. It is a bad guy. The threat is stopped. Life goes on for you.

 

B) You assume it's incompetent FBI. It isn't. Bad guy kills you.

 

You wait for 'full target identification', meanwhile the bad guy doesn't and kills you.

 

In a situation like this, you can either hope it is Law Enforcement, they have made a mistake, and let you live, or you can defend yourself against whoever it may be, and instead of leaving your life entirely up to chance, be prepared to defend yourself.

 

One thing is for sure. Whatever way you look at it, it is a shitty situation, and there is no guarantee to your safety.

Yes, there really isn't any good way out of it, except to be unarmed and hope the incompetent long-arm of the law isn't trigger happy. Had she shot she would probably have been dead. Had she been armed but had not shot, she probably would have been dead, too. Had it been a gang, she probably would have been dead. The only thing that saved her was that she was unarmed and it was the "good guys".

 

+1 vote for disarming the FBI, or giving them less-than-lethal toys. One of them should have been stationed outside that door to protect her from the real gang until that door was fixed.

If the dog and alarm didn't wake me up first, I'd probably be a whole lot closer to stumbling around in a daze for the two or three seconds it takes to breach the door(wondering WTF is that noise and where is it coming from), then vaulting from my bed and sprinting down the hall like a ninja, pumping rounds through my front door at an unforseen chainsaw weilding home invader...

why not?!?