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FID Records

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Does the NJ system allow for any officer to pull your tags and see your FID status?

 

I know most will probably say no, however i had a weird experience at my college the other day.

 

I was coming out of my class and a few minutes after my phone rings and the call went like something like this

 

Officer: is this (first and last name)

Me: No its not,,,whos calling ? (most people i know would never address by full name like that, which is why i denied being the person)

Officer: So you're not...(name again)?

Me: Nope, again who is calling?

Officer: Is this (phone number)?

Me: No, you must have miss dialed (it was the right number, but the officer wasnt saying who he was)

Officer: Ok well there is a few officers by your car you may want to go check it out

which then i hung up.

 

 

The problem was stupid too...i left my radar detector on and there was a cop trying to catch speeders in the parking area and so my radar

detector kept going off which was triggering my car alarm.

 

Now, here is what i dont understand. My Car registration and my boat registration are linked to my google voice number (which happens to foward to the same cell #)

My college information and all contact information is also linked to my google voice number. The only piece of information that links to my real number is my FID paperwork. The officer or whoever it was that was calling somehow knew my cell number which bypassed the google voice firewall. I also have call screening on my google voice so i know it was a direct hit to my cellphone and not routed via google voice.

According to several LEOs on this forum, no, they cannot see FID status based on DL/Tags.

 

If you are pulled over for, say, a traffic violation, and the LEO gets your drivers license and checks for outstanding warrants or whatever else they look for on their computer, will it show that you have an FID card?

 

No

 

Also, if the FID database is anything like most databases available to police, you must have a good reason to be requesting information from them, as they are routinely audited and doing things you aren't supposed to do can result in disciplinary action, up to and including termination, as well as possible criminal charges, depending on what they were doing.

Haha it sounds like your car was helping other drivers out and giving heads up to the cop.

Lying to the police ... not good.

Based on the conversation dialogue provided, the caller never identified himself as an LEO--can it be considered "lying to police" if they do not identify who they are--seems it is just lying. I do not understand why the LEO would refuse to self-identify as soon as the phone is answered though.

 

Personally I would have ignored the question and responded with only a request for identification.

How do you know it was an officer calling you? From your account of the conversation , He never answered your " who is calling" question.

 

The whole thing sounds a little off. Sure it wasn't a friend playing a joke or something?

You do realize they got your info from you tags on the car...no tin hat involved. And that if your info does not match, you can be in trouble

Tags lead to owner/address

NJ dl Must have actual address to find you at

 

Technically you lying could make that car suspicious. Info on record is not what you are stating it to be. If the officer is checking up on a vehicle and attempts to make contact with the owner and the supposed owner says I don't own a car like that it could be impounded for false registration based on your statements. Then you have to prove its yours. Not likely but possible

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Ok first never said it was a "tin foil hat" thing....

 

As for if it was an on officer and not a friend playing a joke on me... I would have caught the friends voice...and number wasn't

in the address book...my phones instant reverse trace shown the number to be from the neighboring town and belonging to verizon wireless so

from what i gather the officer used his own cellphone to make the call. And there was indeed three of them waiting by my car when i got there. They wanted to know

if my car was "alright" due to the constant alarm going off.

 

What does my address have to do with my phone number? The google voice number does indeed call my cellphone so its a valid way to contact me, however they didn't

call the google voice number. When someone calls my google voice and i answer it since i have call screening on when I answer it Ill get "Incoming call from x, press 1 to accept press 2 to

send to voicemail with the option of intercepting the call at any time" When the cop called it was to the direct line as i stated in the OP.

 

It just seems rather strange that he knew a number that isn't on much if any paperwork.

 

 

EDIT:

 

As for the above comment ....I never said the car wasn't mine and no they couldn't impound a car that had 100% right to be on college grounds just because the alarm

was going off, if they would done that it would open themselves up to a lawsuit.

 

 

ALSO for the 5th time the Tag and information is correct...the TAGS are registered with the google voice number which cloaks my cellphone..the guy didnt call the number

my tags had listed they called the number under my FID info

I would be calling that number every night at 2:00 am for the rest of the week until he tells you who he is. :)

When you submitted paperwork for a FPID, you put down your phone number, correct? So the police have your phone number. So what. They also have your SS#, address, DOB, height, etc.... Again, so what. All your info is kept in a data base at the PD.

Why do you have so much call screening? Why, if someone called your phone number, would you deny your identity? Just don't answer the phone next time. Does your voice mail have your name on the recording?

I would be calling that number every night at 2:00 am for the rest of the week until he tells you who he is. :)

 

^^Yes, haha

 

What I don't understand is, was this cop just trying to be difficult or what? How hard is it to say this is officer..x from X..PD, is this Joe blow. If it was in fact a leo calling it's very suspicous behavior to say the least.

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Why do you have so much call screening? Why, if someone called your phone number, would you deny your identity? Just don't answer the phone next time. Does your voice mail have your name on the recording?

 

I denied my identity because the caller refused to identify. I also denied it because as i stated it was a direct call to my cellphone bypassing my last line of defense.

With so many scams and identity theft these days I will deny who i am all the time until the person calling says who they are.

 

I have so much call screening because I'm a jr database developer and pc repair tech and id rather not waste my time with people playing games. I also

modify gaming consoles and the like and so i need that extra protection just in case. With google voice being my last line of defense it does what no cellphone

company can do today, I can block any number i want with it. Case in point if this officer had called my google voice number i could have blocked him after the call and the

next time he called he would get "this number is not in service or has been disconnected" Whats great is i can see when a block caller tried to call me

Modifying game consoles........... My friend and I got a cease and desist letter from Sony years ago, watch your back, these companies will find you.

I would be calling that number every night at 2:00 am for the rest of the week until he tells you who he is. :)

 

From a friends phone. :jester:

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