Is it legal to swap in a longer shotgun extension tube greater than 6 capacity?

I don't have a folding stock & don't have any pistol grip.

thanks

 

found this online somewhere....

 

"assault weapons" restrictions regarding semi-auto shotguns. The definition reads as follows:

iii. A semi-automatic shotgun that has at least two of the following:

(1) A folding or telescoping stock;

(2) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

(3) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of six rounds; and/or

(4) An ability to accept a detachable magazine;

No magazine? You should be good to go.

Pump or semi?

Pump or semi?

 

It's a semi

Then you can not exceed 6 rounds.

Then you can not exceed 6 rounds.

 

I know this had been stated before, but it is not in NJSA, and it does not appear to be in the AG definition of assault weapons in the letter on the njsp site. Where does it come from?

What the OP has posted is from the NJAC - which is not law and is in error. The statute in 2C:39 says that it cannot have a magazine exceeding six rounds, or a pistol grip, or a folding stock. IOW, it only needs one of those evil features to be considered an AW.

Where does it come from?

 

2C:39-1,w(3)

I know this had been stated before, but it is not in NJSA, and it does not appear to be in the AG definition of assault weapons in the letter on the njsp site. Where does it come from?

 

NJ 2C39-1 , the definition of assault weapons includes "A semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, a pistol grip, or a folding stock."

That will teach me to ask before looking it up myself....

Then you can not exceed 6 rounds.

 

Not true

yeah.. you know.. somewhere out on the internet is a list of pretty much all of NJ gun laws..

 

http://njgunforums.c...j-gun-law-faqs/

 

A semi-automatic shotgun that has at least two of the following:

 

This means that if it is a semi-automatic shotgun and has a detachable magazine it can have ONE of the following features and still be legal, but if it has two or more, then it would not be legal.

 

 

(1) A folding or telescoping stock;

(2) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

(3) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of six rounds;

(4) An ability to accept a detachable magazine;

 

 

OR

 

 

A semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, a folding stock

or a pistol grip;

 

(3) A semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six

rounds, a pistol grip, or a folding stock.

 

"fixed magazine" is used in one instance..

but in the actual "law" it simply says vaguely "magazine capacity exceeding six rounds.. does not say fixed or removable..

one would be reasonable to take the wording at face value.. "a magazine capacity exceeding 6 rounds"

Not true

 

Actually it is true, read the 2C:39 definitions http://lis.njleg.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/om_isapi.dll?clientID=31335021&Depth=4&TD=WRAP&advquery=2C%3a39-1%20%20Definitions&headingswithhits=on&infobase=statutes.nfo&rank=&record={1A3F}&softpage=Doc_Frame_Pg42&wordsaroundhits=2&x=43&y=18&zz=

Actually it is true, read the 2C:39 definitions http://lis.njleg.sta...=2&x=43&y=18=

 

I am missing it....

 

No magazine

No pistol grip

No Ninja stock

 

Why is the >6 rule in effect? I'm not saying you are wrong and I am right; i just don't see where the prohibition applies.

I am missing it....

 

No magazine

No pistol grip

No Ninja stock

 

Why is the >6 rule in effect? I'm not saying you are wrong and I am right; i just don't see where the prohibition applies.

 

Well as Vlad already posted the law states " A semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, a pistol grip, or a folding stock" would fall under the assault weapon ban.

And while most shotguns dont use a box magazine, they still have a tubular magazine.

I am missing it....

 

No magazine

No pistol grip

No Ninja stock

 

Why is the >6 rule in effect? I'm not saying you are wrong and I am right; i just don't see where the prohibition applies.

 

2C:39-1w(3)

 

 

w."Assault firearm" means:

(1)The following firearms:

Insert list of evil by name here

 

(2)Any firearm manufactured under any designation which is substantially identical to any of the firearms listed above.

(3)A semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, a pistol grip, or a folding stock.

(4)A semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding 15 rounds.

(5)A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault firearm, or any combination of parts from which an assault firearm may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.\

 

I am missing it....

 

No magazine

No pistol grip

No Ninja stock

 

Why is the >6 rule in effect? I'm not saying you are wrong and I am right; i just don't see where the prohibition applies.

 

because the law states the following..

 

(3) A semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six

rounds, a pistol grip, or a folding stock.

 

and it does not distinguish between fixed mag... detachable mag.. etc..

in fact if you look at "large capacity magazine" the definition includes "tube" so people are assuming it would also apply to a fixed mag.. since detachable mag is not specified..

Ahhh.. I never thought of the feed tube being considered a magazine. Thanks, guys.

 

Only in NJ!

Same reason my friends .22 rifles are listed as assault weapons in NJ, fixed magazine greater than 15 rounds and semi autos. A semi auto shotgun with a fixed (or removable) magazine greater than 6 rounds is an assault weapon.

I was reading the NJ wildlife PDF file for waterfowl hunting & they gave the OK for 7 shot tubes under special exception for shooting canadian goose in September.

Is this only for pump or is it OK for semi ?

This is really confusing...

I was reading the NJ wildlife PDF file for waterfowl hunting & they gave the OK for 7 shot tubes under special exception for shooting canadian goose in September.

Is this only for pump or is it OK for semi ?

This is really confusing...

 

really not that confusing..

a semi automatic shotgun with a magazine capacity greater than 6 is an assault weapon...

so that means there is no instance where you may have that in NJ...

 

that means if there is a hunting exemption for "6+ rounds" then one would be led to think that is in reference to pump only..

because hunting regulations do not trump assault weapon laws..

I was reading the NJ wildlife PDF file for waterfowl hunting & they gave the OK for 7 shot tubes under special exception for shooting canadian goose in September.

Is this only for pump or is it OK for semi ?

This is really confusing...

 

My Mossberg manual states that some shotgun models have plugs in the mag that limit the capacity at two shells in order to comply with a U.S. migratory bird law.

 

Looks like there's an exception to the two shell limit for that particular hunt. In the case that you're reading, the pump shotgun could go to a 7 round mag capacity and, if it's a semi, you would still be limited to the 6 rounds -- otherwise you would be going hunting with an "assault weapon".