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I purchased and Saiga 7.62. If I go with bullet guide method and pinned AK 15 round mags how do you still maintain 922r compliance?

 

Anyone using the AR Mag adapter for the 223 to utilize pinned 15rd AR mags? Thoughts, comments or horror stories are welcome

I completed the 7.62 with bullet guide. I’m going to stick with US 10 rd mags for now since I don’ t know... Here’s a link to my newest build Saiga if interested

 

As far as the .223 question another online forum buddy says his personal choice is not to alter the gun to use the adapter. I interpret that as I would be affecting the integrity of the structure, now a vendor of these adapters may disagree but I concur with him since I didn’t know hacking out mag well was required

sorry I missed this..

 

question 1) I would never rely on magazines to obtain 922 compliance..

saiga 14 parts

pistol grip +1

 

15 total countable parts..

 

-3 fire control group

-1 stock

-1 pistol grip

 

10 which is legal..

 

question 2) I would without question go to the AR mag adapter.. the issue is Nathan who makes them is kind of sketchy.. some times he is completely on point.. and other times he is like extremely swamped and behind..

Thanks for the reply back and clarification on the 922r, someday I’ll get that one.... I value your opinion on these guys so I’m a little surprised you and my non-NJGF source are 180 degrees out on this one, he is also very familiar with these as well. I love the idea of the mag adapter but I would actually need to see what gets milled-out before I could make a decision. I'll look into further

Thanks for the reply back and clarification on the 922r, someday I’ll get that one.... I value your opinion on these guys so I’m a little surprised you and my non-NJGF source are 180 degrees out on this one, he is also very familiar with these as well. I love the idea of the mag adapter but I would actually need to see what gets milled-out before I could make a decision. I'll look into further

 

in a hypothetical "break down of society".. a situation where things are "bad" and you could have just one reasonably priced gun..

 

an AK reliable gun.. that shoots the common 223 round.. and takes the common AR15 magazine..

to me.. seems like total win..

Anyone considering this may want to read this one

 

Post #1 and post # 41 cite cracks in trunnion after adapter install. Post #56 provides a good theory on preventing the cracks however YMMV. I don't have an account on this site so I can't view the images

Anyone considering this may want to read this one

 

Post #1 and post # 41 cite cracks in trunnion after adapter install. Post #56 provides a good theory on preventing the cracks however YMMV. I don't have an account on this site so I can't view the images

 

ironically I have read that many times.. but was skimming through it just last night.. lol

ironically I have read that many times.. but was skimming through it just last night.. lol

When I first considered the mag adapter I did a Google search and it came back with a Saiga image as the mill work was being done. I was trying to find that image for this thread but found the other forum thread instead. You know how it was with Google, it’s hit or miss and didn’t feel like making a day out of the search. That said I haven’t ruled out the mag adapter, it’s just not a priority because it’s up and working with US mags

 

As far as the 7.62 question I completed that one during the week w/bullet guide. I took it out yesterday for the first time and shot 80 rounds of Tula ammo with no problems whatsoever. What’s funny is I cleaned when I came home and when I reassembled it after the cleaning and cycled the action it didn’t feel right, I took it apart and my trigger spring walked off from its location as in this post . Again I could have shot it all day yesterday but I had another gun I wanted to shoot. I don’t know if the bolt assembly went in incorrectly and knocked the spring off or if that is even possible? I put the spring back and cycled it 20 – 30 times and all is good again. I guess the moral of that story is you have to be very careful on the re-assembly...

Rather than doing the AR adapter I was thinking about installing a bullet guide in my saiga 223. Does anyone know where I could get 223 Rem 556NATO 15Rd (pinned) Galil/Golani mags if I were to go that route? can they even be had in the 15rd configuration?

TIA