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ARRRGGHHHHH first video, 2:55-2:58 moving with his finger on the trigger. ....

It was locked back but I get where you are comming from.

It was locked back but I get where you are comming from.

 

there are no buts.

 

What happens is someone slams the mag in, gun goes into battery with your finger in the trigger guard. Negligent Discharge. Locked back is not really locked back. Most of my guns when I throw the mag in there with a bit of positive seating, it will go into battery.

 

Seen it at Florida Open, USPSA Nationals, and local matches.

It was locked back but I get where you are comming from.

 

Doesn't matter..

Relax I am not jumping on a guy in a video. If you want to talk about safety some videos I have seen, shooters are charging their weapon from in front of the ejection port while there suport hand sweeps the muzzle. Or thats how it appears on the video.

Sorry, no relaxing on this issue. I'd like you to show me the video you are talking about but it is perfectly safe to rack the slide from the front without sweeping your hand, lots of people do it all the time.

 

The reason I'm pissed at the video above is not because some guy does it, although that would annoy me anyway, but because some guy with a TV show, presumably trying to make our sport look interesting to the masses does something stupid and they don't even know enough to edit the damn thing in post production or at the very least use a different camera angle or something. Not only do they do something stupid on national TV, they are to damn clue less to know they've done something stupid and reflecting badly on all of us.

Most people in the public dont see the little things and maybe the camera angle was off and his finger really wasnt in the TG or on the trigger. I remember a few months back a video that created a huge controversy. If Im not there I dont judge.

 

In regards to the racking the slde from the front IMHO professionally speaking it looks cool on tv and videos but more often than not people lazer the shit out of theIr hands when they do it.

Look, people don't have to like the safety rules of action shooting sports, they don't have to understand them or present them correctly on TV but they also don't have to shoot said events. Although it really doesn't look like this some camera angle trick, he really looks to have been on the trigger, I don't actually care if it only LOOKED like he was ridding the trigger, it LOOKS bad for a sport I put lots of effort in to anyone that has a clue what they are looking at. It also is a bad habit to show people, it borders on the stupid stuff we yell at people in the movies and TV shows for. We don't need that from "professional" TV shooters, we get enough of that crap from Law & Order or whatever else.

 

As for the slide racking thing, it can be done perfectly safely and it is done perfectly safely by lots of people all the time. I'm not personally a fan of it, but there are reason for it that have to do with firearm geometry, but it seems to me that mostly your point is "Well I've seen other stupid stuff, so why be mad at this stupid stuff?" .. I'm mad all stupid stuff when comes to gun handling, but this was the example I had to work with, please show me the video's you are talking about and I'll be mad about those too if indeed they crossed themselves.

Actually let me clarify something I may have come across a unclear on. I'm with you that 99% of the time racking the slide from in front of the trigger port is unnecessary, and you CAN ask for trouble, and you should probably not do that if you have a choice. However it can be done safely, even if I think it a bad idea. Moving or reloading with the finger on the trigger is not a safe thing in my book (or the USPSA rule book), it is the "doing it wrong" example of movement, it is the equivalent of sweeping yourself with the muzzle when racking the slide. If you will, the racking the slide thing is the equivalent of my Serpa rant, I think it is a bad idea and you probably shouldn't be doing it, but I can't stop you. The moving with the finger on trigger thing, I can do something about if I see at a match, I will do something about it, and I will point it out as bad on video or otherwise.