How hard is it to get and why don't more people get them? Wouldn't it save you a whole lot of money if you were cutting out the middle man?

How hard is it to get and why don't more people get them? Wouldn't it save you a whole lot of money if you were cutting out the middle man?

no it would not, plus you have to register a business name, gets zoning permit, open business checking acct, get state license, get federal license, get tax ID #, get insurance, buy safes, get alarm system & monitoring, get vendors, get audited yearly by the ATF & state police...................shall I keep going?

It is a difficult thing to get, and its a process that takes a year + to complete. When you have the FFL, the guns that are ordered in belong to the FFL and not you, and still must be transferred with a NICS check, charging your phone 15 bones.

what kind of support would you get lf you had a problem with the gun are you know enough about guns if there is a problem or what if you made a mistake and ordered a gun that wasnt legal here by mistake or ignorance the typical mark up on new guns is 45 to 100 bucks the dealer does all the leg work what if its damaged or defective they deal with it. the filling cabinets packed with paper work thats always ready for njsp or atf inspection with a ffl you waive some of your rights

Interesting. Thanks for the info. Didn't realize it was such a hassle to get one.

no it would not, plus you have to register a business name, gets zoning permit, open business checking acct, get state license, get federal license, get tax ID #, get insurance, buy safes, get alarm system & monitoring, get vendors, get audited yearly by the ATF & state police...................shall I keep going?

 

How would you know?

by the way each one of us has had the same thoughts , in most of the country you can get a c&r which would be great for collectors but nj doesnt like them and are from what I understand almost useless here and more trouble than its worth the only plus is some discounts on supplies and ammo

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no it would not, plus you have to register a business name, gets zoning permit, open business checking acct, get state license, get federal license, get tax ID #, get insurance, buy safes, get alarm system & monitoring, get vendors, get audited yearly by the ATF & state police...................shall I keep going?

 

THIS ^^^^^^^^^

 

And by the time you paid for all this, they would be some of the most expensive guns ever if you are only going to collect them, rather than sell them as a business.

THIS ^^^^^^^^^

 

And by the time you paid for all this, they would be some of the most expensive guns ever if you are only going to collect them, rather than sell them as a business.

the atf would need to see a certain amount of business transactions, they will not allow someone just to buy for themselves

the atf would need to see a certain amount of business transactions, they will not allow someone just to buy for themselves

a friend of mine throws ad's in the paper for estate sales, and then he sell's off what he doesn't want on gunbroker. He doesn't do that much business and had been able to retain his FFL for a while now doing this. It's still going to be more money of of your pocket unless you get lucky...which he has gotten very lucky.

How hard is it to get and why don't more people get them? Wouldn't it save you a whole lot of money if you were cutting out the middle man?

 

It's funny. If you buy and sell a lot of guns, you might get a visit from the ATF. They will say, "You are buying and selling too many guns. Get an FFL, OK?"

 

Try to get the FFL, the ATF will say, "You're not actually in the full-time business of buying and selling guns. You can't get an FFL just to make it easier and cheaper for you."

 

 

How would you know?

 

I don't know how he would, but he happens to be right. For the most part, I can't vouch for a couple items but they would probably be required for the NJ (not ATF) license or possibly local ordinances. It aint just the ATF you have to kneel for.

 

It is a difficult thing to get, and its a process that takes a year + to complete. When you have the FFL, the guns that are ordered in belong to the FFL and not you, and still must be transferred with a NICS check, charging your phone 15 bones.

 

I don't think the NICS check is 15 bones. Unless it's a Jersey thing. In PA they actually have a PICS check (LOL we suck even worse-or) which includes a NICS check and it's $2-$5. Also, the FFL does not need a NICS check for guns transferred to his licensee (unless it's a Jersey thing).

 

It's funny. If you buy and sell a lot of guns, you might get a visit from the ATF. They will say, "You are buying and selling too many guns. Get an FFL, OK?"

 

Try to get the FFL, the ATF will say, "You're not actually in the full-time business of buying and selling guns. You can't get an FFL just to make it easier and cheaper for you."

 

exactly

How would you know?

 

Are you being serious?

 

Firearms and Accessories Dealer.

http://www.tjsportingarms.com

Are you being serious?

 

Firearms and Accessories Dealer.

http://www.tjsportingarms.com

 

I've used him a bunch of times, I know.

 

 

I've used him a bunch of times, I know.

 

I figured you might be ballbusting but couldn't tell.

 

 

exactly

 

how many buying and selling of guns would make them come knocking?

 

 

 

I don't think the NICS check is 15 bones. It is Unless it's a Jersey thing. It is In PA they actually have a PICS check (LOL we suck even worse-or) which includes a NICS check and it's $2-$5. Also, the FFL does not need a NICS check for guns transferred to his licensee (unless it's a Jersey thing). It is

I have my C&R. Totally useless. The interview in my home was about an hour.

 

He told me I could try for my FFL but the requirements are pretty strict.

 

I don't think the NICS check is 15 bones.

 

Unfortunately it is. You call the state police NICS unit, at a 900 number. At 5 bucks a minute, you'd think it would be a more pleasant experience.

I don't think the NICS check is 15 bones.

 

It is, and they add 7% sales tax to it as well.

how many buying and selling of guns would make them come knocking?

 

being as that our government has sold guns to drug cartels, and doesn't trust it's own citizens, I'll say 4.

I figured you might be ballbusting but couldn't tell.

 

Dude, were talking Ray Ray, how'd ya miss that...