I will start off with saying this post is in no way in a negative to LEO's.

 

Just curious, with all the recent cuts the towns have been making, have your chiefs etc been implying or suggesting that if you pull someone over and they have a good record to still try and find a way to give them a non point ticket but one that costs money.

 

Before the market crashed years ago I use to get pulled over and they wouldn't say a thing. Check my license and on I go. These were the days that I have suped up cars that if they wanted to they could clearly find infractions like (loud muffler, tinted windows, no front plate, etc etc.)

 

Now fast forward to current day and I've been issued the same exact ticket 3 times in the past 6 months. No front license plate. Twice was because I was speeding and the other because I was talking on a cell phone. Obviously all of them are my fault, and I'm grateful I didn't get the speeding or cellphone ticket but just curious if anyone knows if the towns are putting more pressure on them to rake in the money to cover their other expenses.

 

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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Put a front plate on your vehicle and viola, no more getting pulled over.

Not LEO, and by extension not on topic but... why not just install your front plate? I did that too at one point (when I was at college; replaced my front NJ plate with a school logo plate), but I was in a rear-plate-only state, and had I gotten a ticket it would have been the last one for that particular infraction.

If they were looking for money you would have received the mover and had to plea to unsafe operation. Lot more money than a front plate summons. Basically the officer did you a huge favor 3 times and you think of an alterior motive. This is why I am beginning not to care and just write what I stop you for.

For bluelinefinish....Lighten up! Its a forum, balls get busted, questions get asked! You dont have to be so angry. (warning on the clip)

 

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Once again taken the completely wrong way which I knew it would with the people of this site. You people are ridiculous.

 

I said I had no problem with him giving me the ticket, nor would I of had a problem with him giving me a speeding ticket either. I was merely comparing the way it was 6 or so years ago to current day.

 

The reason the plate isn't on my car is because someone backed into my car and ripped it off and I haven't repaired the front bumper yet to accept the front license plate.

 

So once again, continue on with your retarded bs instead of actually having an actual conversation. Now I remember why I never post on this site anymore.

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With out even going into specifics i think it is a good question.... Are departments telling officers to write more tickets given the economy status in NJ. Personally i find it is usually a discretionary decision, but i have seen in the local paper people getting tickets for speeding 62mph in a 55, which kinda makes me raise a brow, but then again i dont exactly know what happened just the end result.

 

I have been pulled over and ticketed for no front plate, i do have it on now, but only because it has become a nuisance to me. I find it hard to believe LEO's even bother with it, they def. have better stuff to do then write such pointless violations...but it is the law.

Matt, just get some bailing wire and wire the front plate on that Hooptie!

 

Once you're in Floriduh you won't need the front plate.

 

Yes, I agree, they are issuing way more tickets now then in years past for the dumbest things. But you know, if we had that Magic Gold Shield in our front windows we could do burnouts in front of the police station and nothing would be done.

Matt I understood what you were asking and took it as you meant it. However I doubt you will have any member of LE give you a definitive answer to this question on a public forum.

I've also notice it use to be the beginning and the end of the month you'd see cops sitting on the side of the road running radar etc.

 

Now it seems like it's all month long with no specific time of them running speed traps etc.

 

I have also seem them running a lot less DUI checkpoints and opting for other ways of ticketing.

 

Definitely a lot more cops out on patrol these days than 5 or 6 years ago for sure.

Once again taken the completely wrong way which I knew it would with the people of this site. You people are ridiculous.

 

I said I had no problem with him giving me the ticket, nor would I of had a problem with him giving me a speeding ticket either. I was merely comparing the way it was 6 or so years ago to current day.

 

The reason the plate isn't on my car is because someone backed into my car and ripped it off and I haven't repaired the front bumper yet to accept the front license plate.

 

So once again, continue on with your retarded bs instead of actually having an actual conversation. Now I remember why I never post on this site anymore.

 

Matt you are absolutely rightful and respectful.

 

BlueLineFish - Think hard and fast if you belong on this site. You have a bad attitude.

Matt,

 

You know, I might point out that in some cases it's better to incur a front plate violation than a moving violation... In other words, sometimes it's good to have a minor infraction rather than take a ticket for a MV. I had an orange light on the dash of my old old pickup (as compared to my current old pickup) and I got pulled over on the TPK doing well over the limit. Guy was nice enough to just give me a "view obstruction" ticket. Based on the speed I was going, I'll take it.

 

The other option of course is to just follow the law at every possible turn regardless of how inconvenient. Put that front plate on, keep right except to pass, do the speed limit even if the jagoffs behind you keep sniffing your ahole, etc. /sarcasmoff/

So to repose the OP's question without citing specific example... do LEO's here find that their respective department administration have been pushing more to write a ticket rather than a warning to bolster revenue in these trying economic times?

Matt I don't think you'll get a straight up answer for that. Its like in NYC people were talking about cops having quotas and what not. Yea it may have been happening in some instances, would the public ever know about it probably not. I don't think though that all LEOs would be in lock step to such an order. I think they would use discretion on how they would fill it, they stop enough douche bags to make up for it.

 

BlueLineFish - Think hard and fast if you belong on this site. You have a bad attitude.

 

Just my opinion. Like everybody else I have one. Yeah I belong here so I think I will stay. Thanks for your input though

With out even going into specifics i think it is a good question.... Are departments telling officers to write more tickets given the economy status in NJ. Personally i find it is usually a discretionary decision, but i have seen in the local paper people getting tickets for speeding 62mph in a 55, which kinda makes me raise a brow, but then again i dont exactly know what happened just the end result.

 

I have been pulled over and ticketed for no front plate, i do have it on now, but only because it has become a nuisance to me. I find it hard to believe LEO's even bother with it, they def. have better stuff to do then write such pointless violations...but it is the law.

 

I have news for you..if the officer is giving you the State Statute (Title 39 Violation), then he isnt doing it for "Revenue"..85% of fine monies go to the state, NOT to the town, also any fine money doesnt go to the Department, it goes into the towns general fund. NOW< if they are writing Town Ordinance violations, Yeah, THAT money goes direct to the towns, but Moving violations don't work that way. Look around and thank your neighbors...YOU guys (Not you per se OP) **** and moan that the cops dont do enough, "Why do I see the same cop siting in the same place all the time, Don't they have anything better to do???" THIS is the result ...... People complain about our salaries, well Ticket numbers are the only DIRECT way to show that the guys are out there doing their "Jobs"...of course when they DO go out and play Traffic-nazi everyone bitches about THAT....it's a no-win situation.

Matt you are absolutely rightful and respectful.

 

BlueLineFish - Think hard and fast if you belong on this site. You have a bad attitude.

 

Sorry but BS to that.....he just doesnt piss down your back and tell you it's raining..dont ask the guy for his opinion then **** about the answer you get.

Kpd stop it you have a bad attitude. You don't belong here either.

Love how it's already turned into an us vs them when that wasn't even close to the intent of this post.

 

geez

 

everyone is wayyyy too high strung around here for their own health

Wait, what happened? Someone asked for an LEO's opinion and got it, twice.

I feel like I know more about tickets.

What's the issue?

 

I just gave my opinion. I was done with it. Obviously old school doesn't like my opinion so he wants me to leave.

Love how it's already turned into an us vs them when that wasn't even close to the intent of this post.

 

geez

 

everyone is wayyyy too high strung around here for their own health

 

Simple fact matt, is that there are those here who "Know".....and nothing any of us say is going to affect them one whit. Are there places that wrote for "Revenue?/ Sure there are..just not in NJ, with maybe the exception of Wayne..THOSE guys were smart, they replicated EVERY SINGLE Moving Violation in Title 39 in their Town Ordinances..fines are less than the state statute fines by a few dollars, (Or at least used to be, that may have changed) NO points, and ALL the money goes to the Town. The only advantage for a dept in the Numbers game here is to say "See?? My officers are out there doing stuff"...which is what the public seems to want..until of course it's THEM Getting the ticket for being stupid. We have discretion, most guys use it some guys dont and see MV stuff as personal..not my thing. i COULD write 2-3 books a shift without really trying that hard..IMO it does the same thing if i stop someone and lat them know why they were stopped and tell them to be more careful.

I just gave my opinion. I was done with it. Obviously old school doesn't like my opinion so he wants me to leave.

 

Pipes - FishLine---

 

This is why I am beginning not to care

 

This is what I'm referring to.

 

Hey I spent $1k in tickets and lawyers in 2011. I have no hardon for anybody. Ya got me I was wrong.

 

Pipes your answers are civil and informative. FishLine always has a chip on his shoulder.

 

FishLine just knock off the coffee... If you're always defensive I just wonder why you subject yourself to this.

 

Let's just start fresh here.

 

I don't want to foster and hard feeling. I may have been too harsh.

 

I have GOT to get me one of those.......I could make Liberal's heads explode at a full Click with that thing on my truck!!!!!

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I have news for you..if the officer is giving you the State Statute (Title 39 Violation), then he isnt doing it for "Revenue"..85% of fine monies go to the state, NOT to the town, also any fine money doesnt go to the Department, it goes into the towns general fund. NOW< if they are writing Town Ordinance violations, Yeah, THAT money goes direct to the towns, but Moving violations don't work that way. Look around and thank your neighbors...YOU guys (Not you per se OP) **** and moan that the cops dont do enough, "Why do I see the same cop siting in the same place all the time, Don't they have anything better to do???" THIS is the result ...... People complain about our salaries, well Ticket numbers are the only DIRECT way to show that the guys are out there doing their "Jobs"...of course when they DO go out and play Traffic-nazi everyone bitches about THAT....it's a no-win situation.

Maybe a more appropriate question would be, is the state "requesting" that PD's issue more violations? Do they have that kind of influence? And just to be fair, i have been given more breaks then i deserve from LEO's in my "younger" years and i've never had any type of PBA paraphernalia. I would actually feel embarrassed to have to use something like that unless it was warranted.

Yes, this fer sure--I got a Tix on 95 from MSP a few weeks ago. Nice clear day, traffic moving along at 80 or so--"following too close"--paced & all, in my blind spot. Thanks a lot Sparky. But I understand, at the end of his shift/month/reporting period, the LT/CPT/Chief is all like, "So Trooper Skinnyoungster, what did you do today?". And he's all like, um, I drove up and down I-95, there wasn't any accidents, everybody behaved, even the truckers, I didn't write no tix. Hmm, well, Trooper, you know these are hard times, we have to cut back, y'know? Sorry to have to let you go, maybe you can get a job in Cecil Co.SD.

C'est la vie. I consider the tix as a cost of driving in the northeast US. On the plus side, locally, Jax PD has been hammering on the junkies and their suppliers the last year or so, which makes everybody happy, except the now-inmates at the OC jail

 

Oh yeah, and the MSP trooper that gave me the tix also handed me a brochure about Maryland safe driving, the back page of which was an advert to join the MSP! I felt sorry for the young fella after that, I am sure the brochure thing was NOT something he wanted to do.

 

"Why do I see the same cop siting in the same place all the time, Don't they have anything better to do???" THIS is the result ...... People complain about our salaries, well Ticket numbers are the only DIRECT way to show that the guys are out there doing their "Jobs"...of course when they DO go out and play Traffic-nazi everyone bitches about THAT....it's a no-win situation.