Im looking for a remington 12 gauge over and under any ideas where i can find one

It depends on which one you are looking for.

 

Gunbroker or GunsAmerica might be the best places to look. I don't think Remington catalogs an O/U anymore. They only made a handful of models (32 & 3200, 300, 332, 330, 396.) The latter models listed were loosely based on the original 32. The rest have been Italian imports (Sabatti made the Premier line) and the Russian import called Spartan (Baikal) which Remington hastily discontinued. The Sabatti guns were actually very well made, but I think were imported for just a couple of years (2007-2008.) Bill Hanus Birdguns had a batch and was selling them at ridiculously low prices a couple years ago.

 

The Model 32 & 3200 are the best of the American-made Remington's. The 32 is the better of the two. The Remington 32 design is what was sold by DuPont (who bought the rights from Remington) after the war to a company in Germany called Kreighoff. Hence the famed Kreighoff K32 was born! Kreighoff's today are premier sporting shotguns and some are priced for the likes of Saudi princes.

 

Remington's O/U's -

http://www.remington...r-shotguns.aspx

 

2012 Remington catalog

http://www.digitaled...cation/?i=90918

thanks for the info its a big help ill follow up on it