Hi,

 

Is a shotgun inappropriate for a condo dwellers for self defense?, epsecially being somewhat small, with tight corners? Would a 9mm or .357 handgun be more

practically?

 

To be, its seems the shotgun is the better choice for a medium to large home, with a fair amount of property, and apartment, condo and smallish townhome

dwellers would be better suited with a handgun for self defense.

 

Any thoughts?

I think perhaps a shotgun for HD is actually preferable in a small condo or apartment. Handguns could present a problem with over penetration through drywall in a way that defense shot wouldn't. In terms of how compact the handgun is in comparison...I don't know.

 

Ask RayRay. :-)

Go with what you are better with.

 

If you are good with both, shotgun is a little easier to make good hits with due to length and stock. Handgun is more maneuverable, holds more ammo, but the real advantage is that you can wear it around the house or answer the door with it if you feel your home is threatened.

 

What about a judge or governor. Best of both worlds

whats a judge or governor??

I would say use both. If you hear a bump in the night and want to investigate it, take the handgun. If you hear/see someone breaking in, grab the shotgun, lock yourself upstairs, and call 9-1-1.

What about a judge or governor. Best of both worlds

 

Minus the whole anemic .410 thing.

What about a judge or governor. Best of both worlds

 

I've read a few things stating Judge has problems meeting penetration requirements, but I'd be willing to be converted if somebody knows better.

 

At range that close, I'm not sure that the extra oomph of a shotgun is the most important thing. I'd rather have the first thing that will give me the first hit between the nipples and the Adams Apple. If the shotgun will give me the firstest the fastest then all the better, hell yeah. If I have to go get the shotgun then I'll go with the firstest the fastest instead.

Im in a ground floor ,single level condo, I cant run upstairs and lock the door!

 

 

Minus the whole anemic .410 thing.

 

.410 puts the same size buck at the same velocity as 12 Gauge, just less of them. It's not my first choice for sure, but I'd feel confident with a good .410 loaded with buck. And a lot of dead deer figured this out too late.

 

For some reason the tests I've read about on the Judge show poor results. Don't know if it's the very short barrel, the .410, poor testing, or combo thereof. Just not something I know much about.

Heres a good vid on wall penetration of different guns http://www.downrange...IIurrUz5BQWcdBC

.410 puts the same size buck at the same velocity as 12 Gauge, just less of them. It's not my first choice for sure, but I'd feel confident with a good .410 loaded with buck. And a lot of dead deer figured this out too late.

 

For some reason the tests I've read about on the Judge show poor results. Don't know if it's the very short barrel, the .410, poor testing, or combo thereof. Just not something I know much about.

 

Even reduced recoil 2 3/4" 12ga 00 buck(9 pellets) has 300fps less velocity than 3" .410 000 buck(4 pellets).

 

ETA: I believe that's measured at the muzzle of a shotgun too, so out of a revolver it's an even bigger spread.

Hi,

 

Is a shotgun inappropriate for a condo dwellers for self defense?, epsecially being somewhat small, with tight corners? Would a 9mm or .357 handgun be more

practically?

 

To be, its seems the shotgun is the better choice for a medium to large home, with a fair amount of property, and apartment, condo and smallish townhome

dwellers would be better suited with a handgun for self defense.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Actually a shotgun is especially useful in a smaller home, since there aren't many places to run and hide, especially if everything is on a single ground floor!

 

A Youth Model 20 gauge with a shortened stock and barrel and an ounce of #4 Buck high brass will get the job done! That's 21 pellets with each being .24" in diameter! It will penetrate clothes but not go through your wall and through the neighbor's condo first wall. Get something like a Mossberg 500 or Model 510 Youth Pump 20 ga. and keep it under or near the bed. You pick the barrel length from 18.5" to 24" with magazine capacity from 4-6 rounds. Can even get a combo package with a second barrel rifled for slugs so if you decide to go deer hunting, you already have a gun for that too!

 

Anything is better than nothing at all.

 

But an entire ounce of lead in close quarters will end the fight rather handily!

 

Dave

I'm always going to recommend a 12 gauge for HD. I'd only recommend a handgun for someone that can't handle a 12 gauge. 410 buckshot would do just fine as well, but it's not a 12 gauge.

 

I look at it this way, you could possibly bringing a handgun to a rifle fight. I want the best man stopper inside a home, and it's without a doubt a 12 gauge.

Here's a nice drywall punisher