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Is this Replacement Stock NJ Legal?

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As long as you pin the colapsable collapsible stock.

 

...or have a good lawyer on retainer. :icon_mrgreen:

Collapsible stock and a pistol grip, probably not. Sorry. You know that according to Trenton, that kit will turn your 10/22 into an assault weapon.

As mentioned, pin the stock and you'll be good to go.

As long as you pin the colapsable adjustable ! stock.

 

it -might- help us a little if the manufacturers/retailers would start using the word adjustable instead of that other evil word,

  • Author

Thanks. So by pinning the stock, does it actually take all the length of pull adjustability out of it to make it a fixed length or does the pinning make the stock not able to fold or bend? I guess I'm confused as to what we're actually pinning on this stock.

Thanks. So by pinning the stock, does it actually take all the length of pull adjustability out of it to make it a fixed length or does the pinning make the stock not able to fold or bend? I guess I'm confused as to what we're actually pinning on this stock.

 

Yes, pinning the stock prevents you from adjusting the length of pull. You should determine what LOP you need, pin the stock at that location, and then install.

  • Author

OK thanks. So technically, I can't even even take possession of this stock until it's pinned by a dealer or someone out of state, correct?

Correct, technically you cannot have that adjustable stock with pistol grip all at the same location that you have the rest of your 10/22, that would be "constructive possession" of an AW under NJ law.

 

You could always order the stock to a friend or family's house who does not own a 10/22, go there and set it up and pin it, then bring it home and marry it to your rifle. IMO, that would be within the law.

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Correct, technically you cannot have that adjustable stock with pistol grip all at the same location that you have the rest of your 10/22, that would be "constructive possession" of an AW under NJ law.

 

"You could always order the stock to a friend or family's house who does not own a 10/22, go there and set it up and pin it, then bring it home and marry it to your rifle. IMO, that would be within the law."

 

 

You sure about that? Using that theory, my gunless buddy could hold a 25-round magazine for me, even if he didn't own a gun and I believe that not to be legal.

You sure about that? Using that theory, my gunless buddy could hold a 25-round magazine for me, even if he didn't own a gun and I believe that not to be legal.

 

A high capacity magazine (by NJ's definition) is specifically prohibited to possess. The stock only becomes a prohibited item when the necessary components to convert it to a complete assault rifle (again, NJ's definition) are present.

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A high capacity magazine (by NJ's definition) is specifically prohibited to possess. The stock only becomes a prohibited item when the necessary components to convert it to a complete assault rifle (again, NJ's definition) are present.

 

 

OK, thanks. That's stupid, but thanks. :)

while the law does not specifically dictate..

 

one has to assume that there is an allowance for time during working on a firearm..

in NJ you are legally allowed to work on your own firearm..

if you went by the mindset that you could not buy an adjustable stock.. pin it.. and then install it.. most all other firearm acts would be prohibited..

for example..

replacing the stock on a shotgun would be illegal if the temporary state was "too short"

I contacted the state police and posed a similar question to them.. "can I buy a collapsible stock and pin it after taking possession it is for my fiance and I have no idea how short to make it.." they said yes.. at which point I pushed the issue and stated I would be in temporary possession of a gun and adjustable stock.. his response was that it was an unreasonable fear to be concerned with this.. he further stated that he would not advise me to buy an adjustable stock and stick it into my safe for all of eternity next to the gun it is made for.. but if I buy the stock.. and pin it.. within a relatively short period of time it was unreasonable to be concerned about the NJSP busting down my door and shooting me dead...he obviously disclaimed that he could not provide "legal advice" but I tend to agree with him.. think about your typical semi auto rifle.. that can be fired once the stock is removed.. is that constructive possession of a SBR? of course not..

 

again.. if you want to follow the law to the letter.. maybe being cautious is reasonable.. but if you plan to pin the stock as soon as it comes.. I really see NO issue with taking possession of the stock..

 

ESPECIALLY if you take the gun apart before the stock comes.. if the gun is incomplete it is no different than having an AR lower..

I think "constructive possession charge" while in the middle of a build is a stretch..

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What would be involved with pinning that 1st stock I mentioned? Is it something a non-handyman type person can do?

Its fairly simple, but I suck at trying to write out instructions.

 

Tools needed : Drill, drill bit, 3/32" roll pins, hammer, punch, and a vice or second set of hands.

 

Position the stock in the position where you want it

Put it in vice, or use someone who can hold it steady while you drill.

Drill through the stock and the adjustment channel of the extension tube. (see pic)

Hammer roll pin into hole

Enjoy your freshly neutured stock.

 

 

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