Just double-checking I read the rules correctly, the difference between the Production and Single-Stack divisions in terms of what holsters can be used is that for Single-Stack the holster must be high enough so that the front strap of the gun is at or above the top of the belt while for Production it can be lower. The other requirements seem to be the same. Am I correct?

Yup.

Basically that is the only difference. Keep in mind that in ALL divisions 5.2.7.2 applies which says that the heel of the butt of the gun can not be bellow the top of the belt. In practical terms this translates in Production and Single Stack, you need to have your holster behind the front of the hip bone, it needs to cover most of the gun including no lower the 1/2" bellow the ejection port, and they can not place the gun more then 2" away from the belt. The difference boils down to this: In production you can use a dropped and offset holster insert and in Single Stack you can't

So , what if you are wearing yoga pants and a paddle hostler ?? Can I wear Thunderwear? ( j/k )

 

Any difference in the rules from the USPSA intro we did 2 weeks ago are contained in the PDF Mike mailed us , correct?

Yoga pants are kinda out. For safety reasons we require a belt which must be attached to the pants by at least 3 belt loops. I've see a few people over they years trying to shoot while wearing sweat pants and that never ends up well.

Yoga pants are kinda out. For safety reasons we require a belt which must be attached to the pants by at least 3 belt loops. I've see a few people over they years trying to shoot while wearing sweat pants and that never ends up well.

 

I understand and all, but this still is a man card violation...

I understand and all, but this still is a man card violation...

 

Unless being in a hair band is your real job.

lol

Actually , all kidding aside..I can't wear belted pants right now. When I did the USPSA intro I wore a tactical belt cinched tight and it worked fine..but it is well above my hipbones ( picture Urkel with a belt and holster )

 

Is that going to be a regulation problem ?

Actually , all kidding aside..I can't wear belted pants right now. When I did the USPSA intro I wore a tactical belt cinched tight and it worked fine..but it is well above my hipbones ( picture Urkel with a belt and holster )

 

Is that going to be a regulation problem ?

 

In IDPA women are given quite a bit of leeway on holster design, but belt criteria is the same for anyone competing...

 

D. Belts.

Gun belts may be no wider than 1 ¾” or thicker than 5/16” and must pass through the pant loops.

 

Being your first match, I doubt you'll get any static, but Tom probably will mention it to you.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Trust me, you really want a belt attached to your pants somehow. Otherwise you are asking for your gun to drop or to pull your whole belt around your chest at a draw.

hmmm...ok. Maybe I'll just explain it when I get there..I plan to arrive early.

Otherwise you are asking for your gun to drop or to pull your whole belt around your chest at a draw.

 

I assure you there is no way that could happen lol It's on there good , man. No way it could down..or up ..very far

 

If I sewed , I would put some loops on my pants , but they're soft pants , don't know that it would do a power of good..

So , what if you are wearing yoga pants and a paddle hostler ?? Can I wear Thunderwear? ( j/k )

 

Any difference in the rules from the USPSA intro we did 2 weeks ago are contained in the PDF Mike mailed us , correct?

 

Well if your yoga pant's have belt loops.

 

 

5.2.3.1 Female competitors may be permitted (if so authorized in

Appendix D) to wear a belt, holster and allied equipment at hip

level, however, the top of the belt must not be positioned below

the furthest lateral point of the top of the femur (tuberosity

major).

 

But that isn't for production or single stack. So if you want low cut pants, it needs belt loops and it't open, limited, or l-10 for you.

The rules are that the belt has to be securely attached to you, and typically it means belt loops, however not required in purely the rules standpoint. This was clarified in the last rules update.

The rules are that the belt has to be securely attached to you, and typically it means belt loops, however not required in purely the rules standpoint. This was clarified in the last rules update.

 

Sorta, the rule reads:

 

5.2.3 Unless otherwise specified in the written stage briefing, the belt carrying

the holster and all allied equipment must be worn at waist level.

The belt or the inner belt or both must be either securely fixed at the

waist, or secured with a minimum of three belt loops.

 

This normally means velcro'ed, belt loops, or belt keepers but something has to hold it on attached to you, just wrapping a belt around will fail that test in my opinion.

Sorta, the rule reads:

 

 

 

This normally means velcro'ed, belt loops, or belt keepers but something has to hold it on attached to you, just wrapping a belt around will fail that test in my opinion.

 

Correct, there was something from NROI about it iirc, and was explicitely covered in the RO class. I think the emphasis is on securely. =) Regular belt wrapped around you, probably not. =)

I have a bunch of belt keepers that came with the tactical belt. I can make small holes in the pants at the height I need for the belt to be and use the keepers .

So .. I don't mean to be intrusive .. but you don't own a pair of jeans with belt loops?

Yep , several. I have a very large hernia , diastasis recti compliments of my 3rd and last bay-bay. Can't have anything with any kind of pressure in the mid abdominal area and below , very uncomfotable. Need surgury , probably end of May .

 

In the meantime I need to Urkel my belt/holster.

 

If I could find my high waisted Sasson or Jordace jeans from the 80s I 'd be in business

Ok, let me think about it for a bit.

Thanks

Ok, let me think about it for a bit.

 

She did good with what she was using in the USPSA class up at Shongum the last weekend in March. Her holster was secure, she didn't have any movement that you would normally associate with that set up, and she took her time and above all, have a great and very safe day.

I suppose if you used a paddle holster for your pistol and mags and they were attached to a pair pants that was going to not have excessive give, you could say that is secure. I would be concerned about the weight of a pistol and mags vs yoga pants or sweat pants, but something more substantial might be ok.

 

The other thing to consider that USPSA can be a fairly active game with lots of time spent on your feet or running around and you might want to consider if you should be doing that before your surgery. I would hate to see you get hurt worse.

Thanks I'll be fine though. I have been running 5 miles 3 times a week and lifting weights at the gym. Not back to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu or anything yet .As long as there is no prone shooting lol . It is pretty much a localized pressure type thing. The doctor says if it does not hurt , it is ok to do the activity . If anything , I need activity. Need to drop another 25 before they'll do the surgery.

Sandy,

 

There really isn't that much prone shooting in USPSA, although there are several scenarios where you need to take a knee or squat to enter a Cooper Tunnel, or stretch around a wall to engage targets. Just do what you can do as safe as you can and you'll have lots of fun and learn some really kool gun handling from several folks that I occaisionally shoot with. You'll do just fine!

 

Dave

Any of that is no problem . I'm lifting , doing squat thrusts , sprints The kids beat me up more than anything. Kids have a knack for finding the spot that hurts lol

Been there and done that! Mine used to jump on the bed to play with me, until the jewels got landed on that is, lol!