A semi vs pump shoot out comparison, Man hickock 45 does some pretty good videos. I will say i was impressed at the rate of fire for the semi. Its a long video. I would like to have his job

I can do that too.

 

Nice video! I love my pump. Even won competitons with it (knockdown steel side-match)

I can do that too.

 

Nice video! I love my pump. Even won competitons with it (knockdown steel side-match)

Congrats

Thank-you! And thanks for posting the video. It will help answer some Noob questions that pop up every so often. May even want to make this thread a sticky!

 

Dave

I recomend subbing to hickok's channel. His videos can get real informative

I can do that too.

 

Nice video! I love my pump. Even won competitons with it (knockdown steel side-match)

 

Waiting for your video Rosey.

Ray,

 

Sorry to say that there isn't one! It's been a couple years since I did it, but I could easily replicate what I did. It was at a World Class Steel Match Side Match in June a few years ago now. Basically I stood inside a 4x4 USPSA "box" and knocked down 5 poppers with 5 rounds of birdshot in 2.5 sec. starting from the low-ready. I didn't aim, just sort of pointed the 12 ga. As I fired the last round T-3 was almost all of the way down, T-4 was on the way down and T-5 was just hit, so I had 3 out of 5 plates (poppers) moving at the same time. Think I won something like $30.00 for my $5 or $10 entrance fee. Didn't get rich, but it was nice to accomplish. Did it with the Winchester that my wife bought me with S and H Greenstamps (approx 28 years ago) through a gift program where she worked at the time. Me and that pump have shared a lot of memories.....

 

The main trick to doing it is to get the timing of the trigger disconnect down. You have to let go of the trigger at the same time as you stroke the slide action, or you do a "jammaramma" or possibly short-stroke the gun.

 

Rosey

Isn't there a way to "modify" a pump so you can keep the trigger back and actually fire the gun each time you close the action?

Just buy an early Ithaca M37, early Savage/Stevens, or an original Win. M97 & M12. All are capable of that particular feat.

Cool, time to check Gunbroker. Just sounds like too much fun to be missing out on. Old farts like Dave probably did this when I was still in diapers.

Cool, time to check Gunbroker. Just sounds like too much fun to be missing out on. Old farts like Dave probably did this when I was still in diapers.

I believe Norinco M97's do not have a trigger disconnect, and will work like the original. Repro-M12's from Browning have a trigger disconnect, so will not act like the original. Ithaca added a disconnector to their M37 around 1975.

Mike,

 

If you want to see a real slam-fire in action, go to the SASS website and look for SASS videos. Several Women can do this with outstanding speed, via a learned technique of a special reload by going over the top of the receiver. Lots of original turn-of-the-century shotguns can be seen in these video clips.

 

If you wind-up with a shooty w/o a disconnect, you'll be hooked into a whole new experience.

 

Parker has the makes and models covered (thanks Parker!). The Ithica was renowned for being able to do this. Good thing that the extractors on these models were made to take it.

This video is like the greatest video for cool-@$$ shotguns.

Mike,

 

If you want to see a real slam-fire in action, go to the SASS website and look for SASS videos. Several Women can do this with outstanding speed, via a learned technique of a special reload by going over the top of the receiver. Lots of original turn-of-the-century shotguns can be seen in these video clips.

 

If you wind-up with a shooty w/o a disconnect, you'll be hooked into a whole new experience.

 

Parker has the makes and models covered (thanks Parker!). The Ithica was renowned for being able to do this. Good thing that the extractors on these models were made to take it.

 

how about a link...

how about a link...

 

Calling it a "slam-fire" is incorrect. Slam-fires occur when a round goes off upon chambering WITHOUT the trigger being pulled. They are sometimes dangerous.

 

Another -

 

 

Ladies Only - Jessie Abbate

Thanks j0n for the link.

 

And thanks to Parker for the links too. And I stand corrected about the use of the term "slam-fire", for as usual you are indeed correct. I was working on my first cup of "mudd" and was a little cloudy this morning.........

 

Jesse is really something, isn't she?? USPSA and SASS championships. Ain't that sumpthin??

 

Dave

Dave, you are right though. Among "pump aficionados," it is often referred to as slam-fire. (You slam the pump forward on a live round with the trigger depressed and it fires.)

I'm guessing with the semi's you need a certain pressure to feed the next round, I wonder how they run with reduced recoil rounds. and how are they to clean

Semis do have problems with reduced loads. There is a fella named Dennis that shoots/belongs to Mallard. He reloads 20g for kids (and maybe older people) to use. They work fine in the pumps, but will not cycle a standard semi. I imagine if one was to enlarge or add more holes for the gas system it may cycle correctly with the wimpy ammo, but then you won't be using factory loads anymore.

All this video proves is that shottys do DAMAGE! Thats first round he let off was hysterical.