Hi Guys,

 

Completely new to this and in the FID process so I have a few questions.

 

1. Once I get the FID and P2P and go to the store to purchase does the store run another background check?

 

2. I just started the process....

 

May 2nd - Application submitted

May 4th - Fingerprinted

May 4th - References received their forms.

May 5th - References mailed back their forms

 

I know the process can take months but the DET said it is usually 6 weeks. At this point I believe that the only thing they are waiting for is NJSP background and Mental health. Does it really take that long for NJSP and Mental Health?

Yes, the store runs an on the spot NICS check before you can take any firearm.

 

As for the FID checks, it all depends. It shouldn't take more than a month.

 

I know someone that got his FID and P2P's in less than 2 weeks. So I think it's all bullsh*t, and it's just when the pd feels like getting to it.

1. Yes

 

2. Could be. They can be "backed up" but then it goes back to your detective who will probably take his time. 6 weeks in some townships is a blessing but still longer than the 30 days it's supposed to.

 

In hillsborough it took 6 weeks just to change my address. And I called 2x and stopped in 2x.

Johngo1, what town are you from? Some towns handle the process very well, others have a tendencey to drag their feet.

 

There's a thread on here that lists a bunch of members towns and their reviews of how their town handled everything.

 

ETA: http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/13732-nj-fid-application-data-collection-effort/

I ran a NJSP background check on myself. Took 1 day.

Be aware that the POS (point of sale) NiCS check will be an additioal $15+tax on top of what you pay for the gun. When shopping, it's always best to ask for an OTD (out the door) price for comparison purposes.

If NJSP takes 1 day and my references both sent their forms back then PD must have everything back. Only thing left would be the mental health check.

 

How do they check that and how long does that usually take?

 

 

Mental health checks go to the county. That is usually the hold up.... It was on mine. I would have gotten my permits in 2 weeks, but took 28 days due to county dragging their feet.

 

And I'm not complaining. My town is great and the records clerk is very nice and keeps me updated. I haven't had an issue with P2P's in WP yet.

Understand that the POS NICS check usually only takes a few minutes to complete. You will be able to go home with your gun once you have your FID/P2P assuming everything checks out ok.

Wouldn't the NICS be a waste of time? If you have a FID and P2P it means that you already passed a background check. Is there ever a time that the NICS would come back differently?

Yep. You could have committed crime between the time your P2P was issued and the day you showed up to purchase a gun.

or restraining orders, or you went insane.

Wouldn't the NICS be a waste of time? If you have a FID and P2P it means that you already passed a background check. Is there ever a time that the NICS would come back differently?

 

Welcome to NJ, the redundant state.

 

Actually, the NICS could come back differently as it is usually more thorough - which is why we've been lobbying to make this the ONLY criteria for purchase.

Wouldn't the NICS be a waste of time? If you have a FID and P2P it means that you already passed a background check. Is there ever a time that the NICS would come back differently?

 

Could not agree more, makes no sense whatsoever.

NICS is not the waste of time, the permit process is.

I was seeing it wrong. My thought was as soon as I get the permit I am going to buy so what would change in a few hours. What I didn't consider is that the FID is lifetime so 10 years later you can still buy a long gun and a lot could have changed with a person in 10 years.

I was seeing it wrong. My thought was as soon as I get the permit I am going to buy so what would change in a few hours. What I didn't consider is that the FID is lifetime so 10 years later you can still buy a long gun and a lot could have changed with a person in 10 years.

 

The shop owner has no idea how long its been since those permits were issued. They do the NICS regardless

The shop owner has no idea how long its been since those permits were issued. They do the NICS regardless

 

the permits do have an issue date on them.

NICS is not the waste of time, the permit process is.

 

THIS^^^^^^