i read an article stating that the us changed its stance on the un weapons treaty. do you guys actually think it may pass?

 

 

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/15/us-arms-usa-treaty-idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

Not sure if it will pass, but if the UN is up in arms(pun intended) over consensus agreement, then at least the resulting treaty will be compromise. Russia, china and Israel don't want to hamstring their own economies by being restricted in their exports. I still can't figure out how, when there is money to be made, thy think this will keep small arms out of the hands of tribal warlords and terrorist cells. It's not like domestically where antis have the view that illegal street guns originate as legally sold firearms that are stolen or straw purchased. Then they press controls to print that, as misguided as it is. The US government is the broker of international arms deals. Same with china Russia and Israel. Smh.

here is a story to read and contact our reps

 

 

http://www.ammoland.com/2012/05/08/obama-pushing-un-gun-control-while-senate-bill-would-cut-funding-of-un-small-arms-treaty/#axzz1vn9WDnbF

There is zero incentive monetarily for the USA to be part of this treaty. The asshat countries and groups out there procuring weapons illegally (or legally via loopholes) are not buying US weapons AFAIK. They are too expensive. They go for the China knock-offs! Norinco CQ 5.56 anyone!

 

For instance : China got caught talking to Qaddafi

 

As for the treaty affecting our 2A rights, I'm still not sold on this. I believe we have larger threats, such as arbitrary BATF and State Dept policies that can in one fell swoop ban the importation of any type of guns that they feel are not "sporting" enough. Who needs a UN treaty when we un-checked policies and regulations that hold the power of law, without the need to actually go through Congress. Very similar to these BS "Executive Orders" that the White House has been spewing for the past 100 years.

Signed? Under this administration, the chances are probably pretty good. Ratified by the Senate = 0 chance.

 

The senate has already put Obama on notice that they will not ratify this treaty. 57 senators were signatories to a letter stating that, and it takes 2/3's of the senate to ratify.

 

I'm with Dan, we have bigger home-grown threats to our liberties.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

i read an article stating that the us changed its stance on the un weapons treaty. do you guys actually think it may pass?

 

 

 

http://www.reuters.c...E59E0Q920091015

 

If Obama is reelected, my money says 100% chance.

Signed? Under this administration, the chances are probably pretty good. Ratified by the Senate = 0 chance.

 

I give it a much higher chance of being signed by Romney than Obama. We have absolute facts that Romney is very anti-gun, since he signed into law the MA "assault weapons" ban, and has stated many times in interviews that he would sign Brady bills. We're all pretty sure Obama is likely to be anti-gun in his second term (his actions were moderately pro-gun in the first term), but that's yet to be discovered.

Even if Obama or Romney sign it, it will not likely be ratified by Congress.

Better buy them now while you still can! This has been Obamas plan since all along. I said it before...if this guy gets reelected our country as we once knew it will cease to exist. I guess this is part of what he whispered to Medvedev when he thought his mic was off...First divide the country (class warfare, racial tension) then insert a national crisis (economy in the tank and the dollar on the verge of collapse) then disarm the citizens for their own "good". Voila..recipe for a bloodless coup and a budding dictatorship. And they said it could never happen here...the ironic thing is this is being done by a guy who wasn't even born here. Yes...i said it. He wasn't born here. There is a mountain of evidence indicating such. I don't give a shit about his "long form " certificate. Sheriff arpaio utillized one of the foremost authoritys on document verification, who testified that its a fraud. For christ sake his own Bio in 1991 stated he was born in Kenya. The mainstream media continues to try and make anyone who is a "birther" look nuts because Obama is their guy. Im so sick of it. If someone wrote a book about you and said on the front insert that you were born in a different country, would you wait 20 years to correct it?

This has taken a turn for the absurd.

I hope that's wrong. But I don't trust this administration at all.

Clearly.

i read an article stating that the us changed its stance on the un weapons treaty. do you guys actually think it may pass?

 

 

 

http://www.reuters.c...E59E0Q920091015

 

 

Article is from October 2009....The internet is great at getting people up in arms over past issues that never came to fruition.

Article is from October 2009....The internet is great at getting people up in arms over past issues that never came to fruition.

 

if only +1s still existed..

Yes that article is but the treaty is expected it be finalized July 2012. Hopefully the senate sticks to its word. I didn't post up every article I read. I didn't want my post to be deleted for looking like the drudge report.

 

 

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/21/sen-moran-introduces-bill-to-protect-second-amendment-rights-from-u-n-arms-treaty/

http://m.christianpost.com/news/the-arms-trade-treaty-christians-unite-against-international-violence--75735/

If Obama is reelected, my money says 100% chance.

 

Still has to go through the House and Senate..... Despite the fact that he obviously doesnt understand the idea...the POTUS isnt the King.

Still has to go through the House and Senate..... Despite the fact that he obviously doesnt understand the idea...the POTUS isnt the King.

 

I believe that treaty ratification is the sole purview of the Senate and requires a two-thirds vote for passage. Unlikely that will ever happen with this treaty.

i sure as hell hope not