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flip up sights on a flat top ar - height issues

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i will be buying a DPMS oracle, it is a flat top rifle with a rail on the top of receiver and a rail on top of the gas block. i will be mounting flip up sights on it.. however the height of the rail on the gas block is less then that of the rail on top of the receiver.. my question to you guys is, does any companies make flip up sights to adjust for this difference in height???? thanks, joey

My buddy just lifted the front post until they were even and sighted in. It was like a 1/8 of a inch difference and the.front site post was able to be adjusted to.find zero. Hope this helps

Yes. Most front sights indicate whether they are for a gas block or main rail. If it doesn't say so, assume it is gas block.

I don't mean to sidetrack the thread, but may I ask why you are getting a DPMS rifle? I don't mean to piss on people's choices, but DPMS is not very well regarded by most AR folks if they are looking for a rugged and reliable rifle. For not that much more money, the next pricing tier of manufacturers (ie like Spikes or Bravo Co) may serve you better. Anyway, back to the thread...

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well ive never bought a DPMS, im more of a rock river/ bushmaster guy myself, but if you must know, my good friends dad owns a gun store and they're giving me a knock out price on a brand new oracle, pretty much buying it cause of price... im not a compition shooter or anything.. if i send 500 rds thru it a year, thats alot for me... ok back to the thread.. thanks for that info i will look for front "gas block" sights..... but next question, do you recommend buying them seperate? or is there kits with front gas block and rear rail?? thanks

Some places will do a set but mix and match is fine.

Yes. Most front sights indicate whether they are for a gas block or main rail. If it doesn't say so, assume it is gas block.

I don't mean to sidetrack the thread, but may I ask why you are getting a DPMS rifle? I don't mean to piss on people's choices, but DPMS is not very well regarded by most AR folks if they are looking for a rugged and reliable rifle. For not that much more money, the next pricing tier of manufacturers (ie like Spikes or Bravo Co) may serve you better. Anyway, back to the thread...

 

Chris - Not to hijack the thread but you're a rifle snob... :keeporder:

http://www.google.co...ved=0CGoQ8wIwAQ

 

I was thinking of using this one or the Midwest industries hk style sight.

 

 

DO NOT use a magpul sight.

 

The Midwest Industries HK style sight is awesome... that's what I have and it's great. Another plus is that it folds forward which is perfect for a low profile gas block.

 

 

The Midwest Industries HK style sight is awesome... that's what I have and it's great. Another plus is that it folds forward which is perfect for a low profile gas block.

 

I've been leaning towards that one. Is there any functional difference? I think the hk style looks nicer unless you have the front sight post

I've been leaning towards that one. Is there any functional difference? I think the hk style looks nicer unless you have the front sight post

 

I prefer the HK style front sight... and find I'm more accurate with it for some reason. It looks like circle within a circle when peeping throug the rear sight... so you just line up the circles and you're set.

 

I don't know about the YHM one you listed, but the Midwest Industries does flip forward, whereas some gas block front sights fold back and hit the rail and will not fold completely flat or mar the rail and the sight.

i will be buying a DPMS oracle, it is a flat top rifle with a rail on the top of receiver and a rail on top of the gas block. i will be mounting flip up sights on it.. however the height of the rail on the gas block is less then that of the rail on top of the receiver.. my question to you guys is, does any companies make flip up sights to adjust for this difference in height???? thanks, joey

 

As everyone posted above, by a gas block height front sight and you'll be set. Here are a couple of shots of my AR with the Midwest Industries gas block height front sight (HK Style), which flips forward and works great on my rifle.

 

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For clarity's sake I meant I was leaning towards the MI

 

 

Chris - Not to hijack the thread but you're a rifle snob... :keeporder:

Ha, I guess so. To me, DPMS is like Taurus. It'll probably work OK, but if you intend to make it a potentially life saving tool, why not buy something nicer and better built for a few more dollars. The difference between a low end and mid range gun is what, 500 rounds of 223? If you are going to take the gun out a couple of times a year, then buy anything at the cheapest price I guess.

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wow you guys are great thanks for the input now i know what to look for and which direction to start....

I just picked up a set of Diamondhead signts. This set specifies that it is good for the gas block. Found them at Stag. Got free shipping on them on the 4th. (Just love the good ole American companies). Anyhow, all my research showed that although costly, you need to spend the bucks to get a good quality folding sight that will stay accurate over time. I am not saying Diamondhead is the only way to go, several others have suggested ones that kept comming up as an excellent product during my research.

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