Ok everyone..finally got my Stag model 3 flat top with flip up irons and need some final opinions before I put a red dot on..my final two choices are primary arms micro dot or vortex strike fire ...I want sight cowitness with the irons..just need some reinforcement from my friends on the forum before I pick either one..thanks

I have a vortex strikefire - seems pretty nice so far. I like the fact that it can do red/green dot and it's setup for co-witness with the default mount.

Congrats, I have the same upper and love it. I have primary arms multi reticle. I can't say anything bad about it. I like the eotech style dot in circle and circle in cross. Stays on zero. Great price. I almost bought a strikefire which I hear very good reviews also

The Vortex is nice.. but I'd say that the Primary Arms red dot is pretty much the same quality (build-wise)... so go for the one that costs less (Primary Arms) and has more features. The Primary Arms gives you multiple reticles, as well as a 2 MOA dot. The Vortex has a 4 MOA dot.

 

WINNER = Primary Arms!

 

I have the Primary Arms multi-reticle sight with the cantilever mount (which gives me lower 1/3rd co-witness) and also the Primary Arms 3X Magnifier on a quick disconnect mount and works wonderfully well for me. Lots of rounds down range and it hasn't lost zero yet. I also love that the dot looks like a perfectly round dot and not a red blob, like so many other red dot sights do.

My vote goes for the PA micro, I love mine in the ADM qd mount.

I called PA and they said theyre out of stock for 60-90 days..anyone know another place theyre available

Blah, thought I found some on Amazon.. Just the Vortex

I called PA and they said theyre out of stock for 60-90 days..anyone know another place theyre available

Which one is out of stock? The Micro-dot model? The PAM3M multi reticle shows in stock on PA's website, and I highly recommend it. https://www.primaryarms.com/Primary_Arms_MultiReticle_Red_Dot_Sight_PAM3M_p/pam3m.htm

I called PA and they said theyre out of stock for 60-90 days..anyone know another place theyre available

 

That sucks, but IMHO they are worth the wait.

Njdivertony... I like the m3 multi reticle but do those lens caps lay on the top rail and interfere with iron sights?

I have the M3 on my 22 AR and it works great. The caps are moveable and removeable. You can have them flip up, down or to the side. The should not interfere with your sights.

Njdivertony... I like the m3 multi reticle but do those lens caps lay on the top rail and interfere with iron sights?

 

No, not at all... because you can rotate them so they flip up and out of the way... or just remove them totally if you want. I have them set so they flip up and that works great for me.

 

 

No, not at all... because you can rotate them so they flip up and out of the way... or just remove them totally if you want. I have them set so they flip up and that works great for me.

 

This. Though I did have a problem with one of the pins on the hinge constantly coning out. It has since fixed itself and is no longer an issue

Why aren't you comparing the PA micro dot to the Vortex Sparc. I have used all three. I much prefer the sparc and It comes with the mount and for full co-witness and a shim if you want to lower 1/3 co-witness. and you can have it for $185 shipped to your door and it also comes with 2 batteries and the 2x magnifier which inst great but it works. Hands down the sparc takes it. http://www.3riversprecision.com/ enter the code MACSPARC and you get 10% off of $199 with the shipping it comes to $185 iirc, and you dont have to wait 3 months for them to be in stock

I thought the point of a flattop with flip up sights is so you don't have to worry about cowitness.

Why aren't you comparing the PA micro dot to the Vortex Sparc. I have used all three. I much prefer the sparc and It comes with the mount and for full co-witness and a shim if you want to lower 1/3 co-witness. and you can have it for $185 shipped to your door and it also comes with 2 batteries and the 2x magnifier which inst great but it works. Hands down the sparc takes it. http://www.3riversprecision.com/ enter the code MACSPARC and you get 10% off of $199 with the shipping it comes to $185 iirc, and you dont have to wait 3 months for them to be in stock

Agreed. PSA had it for $150 too. Not sure if the deal is still good. Coupon code was "SPARC" - worth a shot.

 

I thought the point of a flattop with flip up sights is so you don't have to worry about cowitness.

No not at all. Flat top with flip up sights is so you don't have to worry about the carrying handle, and so that you could use any optic you want with cowitness, lower 1/3, etc.

 

No not at all. Flat top with flip up sights is so you don't have to worry about the carrying handle, and so that you could use any optic you want with cowitness, lower 1/3, etc.

 

I'm thinking of a flat top that has a gas block but no sight like this:

I thought this was a flat top...

I'm thinking of a flat top that has a gas block but no sight like this:

 

See my AR: