( This is just my experience picking up my PPP, skip it if you bore easily, no yawns.. You hav been warned)

 

I got a letter from my town (Franklin Lakes) informing me my PPP was ready for pickup. I went down to the station and was escorted into what looked like the interrigation room. I recently applied for CCW permits with 5 states as well as for a C&R FFL. I waited a good 5-10 minutes. My mind is starting to think worst case scenarios. Eventually Sgt Cook comes in asks for my license and leaves. A few minutes later returnes and places the three permits in front of me and advise me to read and confirm all info on them.

This was not the standard protocol. Previously I just picked up at the front counter.

 

By this time I could read his tone and it was friendly, my palms stopped sweating so I asked about the Change in ppp pickup procedure. He said they recently got a call from the state police about another resident that purchased a gun in dec and a gun in January but not 30 days apart. And wanted to explain the law to make sure everyone understood. He then went on to say the njsp wanted them to make an arrest but the FLPD felt it was an honest mistake and declined saying he was a decent guy and what not.

 

Personally I did not realize the onus was on the buyer to comply I thought it would be flagged and not go thru if you went early.)

 

I then asked if he new anything about my FFL application. He said he recalled seeing it and would check. He left and came back with my file. ( yes they have a file on me. I peeked over as he thumbed thru it. They had my Ppp apps, my FFL app, there were sticky posts attached to pages, ect) After looking it over he said they had no issues with my getting it but that if was a federal lic and not up to them. He said th chief was fine with residents having firearms.

 

He asked my what it was for so I explained how in NJ they were useless but when I travel out of state how I could use it, I told him about 10% discounts, ect. We then talked about the ccw lic in other states, crime in our town, his retirement plans, ect. I spent 40 minutes talking with him... Very friendly and not the least bit anti gun. He even mentioned pulling people over carrying with out of state permits and just telling them to put it in the trunk locked up while in NJ. I explained the whole transport to PA for lawfull purpose verses exempt activity to which he was un aware.

 

I really enjoyed speaking with him. My wife later said he was a good detective and got a lot more info for my file that he could not have gotten otherwise.. I hate to be so sinicle could she be right? Does my file have a bigger yellow sticky that says " Firearms Enthusiest " use caution

Would you advise to just politely check over the ppp for errors as requests, sign and leave.

 

I was thinking to shoot the breeze with the officer so he can put a face with the Permitt and feel comfortable about me moving forward for future request from a normal guy.

 

Did I meet a great pro 2A officer or was I skillfully fleeced of Info for that folder they have on me?.. ( it tha legal?)

 

 

 

 

Chances are you just had a decent conversation, and a potential friend. Probably nothing malignant.

 

Happened to me when I picked up my FID. Talked to the officer in charge for 10-15 minutes. Nice guy, if a little hesitant about discussing firearms.

Of course you're a firearms enthusiast. That's why you're applying for all the licenses. Cops are trained to be cops. To interrogate and get information by asking questions. Maybe he was digging for info. As long as you appear a decent chap.... NJ gives the local police discretion as a first line of qualification. It's good to on friendly terms with them.

I have these conversations with the officers and people in my local PD with no issues. Generally, I think they are nice people.

 

I really hope so... If not I would feel really stupid... Again!!!. . A different officer in town tricked me once before.

 

I had a dispute with a TV repairman who was at the house. After disagreeing about a repair price for 15minutes.( I had a estimate in writing) I asked him to step outside and discuss it. I then shut the door behind him and said If he wants to pursue the matter any further

we would have to do so in small claim court.

 

He went to the Police and reported the incident. The police came and very nicly said the repairman reported an incident.

While At the front door the officer ask if he could come inside and talk. He stepped in the foyer, then said can we go and discuss it in the library. Once in the library he said the repairman claimed I got a a rifle from my library and threatened him to leave while pointing it at him.

 

As it turns out I have a replica western display with a replica Winchester in the library. This was visible to the repairman while in the house and now the police are in my house with the gun in there hand inspecting it...

 

I felt played afterward. I never would have let them in otherwise.

 

The only thing that saved me was I said I had cameras in the house and I can't wait to sue the repair co... Next thing I know they are recanting the whole firearm part of the complaint... I bluffed about the camera... They are up but not recording at that time.

 

 

Our friend works in the local PD and she handles all the firearms permits (plus another woman we are friendly with). She smiles everytime I come in for more permits. Asks me what were're getting next. My wife also visits her for permits. We know a lot of people in the local PD, they are friendly, never said boo about residents buying guns. Some of them are jealous of what we have.

_{So what did he find out? You're a nice guy who knows what he's talking about. At least now he knows your not a nut job either. A little parnoid maybe, but a nice guy.}

When I was picking up my FID I was sitting at a stainless steel table with rings welded to it. I jokingly asked the Detective what those were for.... he replied with something along the lines of "If you knew, you wouldn't be here getting an FID right now".

Since you listed your town and it would be rather easy to figure out who the officer was, I would remove the references to his curb side justice for his sake.........

Chances are the PD wont care about the FFL, however, good luck getting that past the zoning board. I know someone who has a business in town out of there house and they went through hell and back, and it was just simple offices in a house.