Hey guys last weekend I finally took my new Glock 19 Gen 4 out for a trip to my friends farm... Since this is my second time ever shooting i'm not sure if i'll be reporting everything i should be... We used speer lawman 115gr.... So here we go.

 

pulled glock straight out of box and loaded up 3 magazines and started shooting at empty plastic bottles, in the first 3 magazines there were about 10 FTF ('fail to feed' bullet) we literally just had to tap the top 1/2 of gun forward to fix. After that there were no more. My friend believes it was because the gun had literally almost no lube on it and it was a little stiff..

 

After those first 3 magazines it didn't happen again the rest of the time. And out of about 300 rounds i had one brass to the face.. I really think it will shoot flawless after our cleaning and lubing of the gun. So i will have a Part 2 maybe next week.

 

So when we cleaned it we put a dab of lube on the rails.. the gun def "racked" (not sure if correct term) MUCH MUCH smoother. I will know for sure the next time out if that was the issue.

 

other then first few clips(correction.... Magazines like stated several times above ) the glock 19 Gen 4 did very well for being pulled out of the box new and fired. (never do that again lol)

 

 

The other thing i now need to work on is where to hold the gun when i'm shooting @15 yards... it seemd at 15 yards i had to hold the sights an inch below the bottle in order to hit the bottle... but i'll work on this more. Vlad gave me some tips in the chat room last night. Maybe glocks are "zeroed" at 25 yards.. and anything closer you need to adjust accordingly (makes sense to me)

 

 

Hope i gave a decent report on my first time dry firing my glock(correction#2 firing gun without lube/oil) !!

nice i have a gen 4 G17 and love it extremely accurate.

your action cycled well after you lubed it up LOL and you didnt dry fire your glock, dry firing is when you fire the gun without a bullets chambered

I purchased a G19 Gen 4 in April of this year and have put about 1400 rounds through it. I have had zero issues and no FTF or FTE. The gun has performed flawlessly every time and is very easy to clean and take apart.

 

I'd say if you have any trouble whatsover next time, you should bring the gun in to get checked out or contact Glock directly.

 

As for cleaning and lubing; from my experience and research it actually needs very little lube/oil on its parts and is pretty easy to clean. You should definitely go on YouTube and watch videos from 'hickok45' about Glocks. He has great info on shooting, cleaning, etc and is extremely knowledgable with them.

 

Good purchase and good luck going forward.

Congrats, good luck with it. Your first handgun? Curious if the brass-to-the-face remains a problem or not as you shoot it more.

 

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...other then first few clips the glock 19 Gen 4 did very well for being pulled out of the box new and fired. (never do that again lol)...

 

How'd you get your glock to feed from CLIPS?

 

 

Anyway - Should clean/lube right out of the box. Especially for brand new firearms. I know Beretta packs their guns in a thick grease that's really to preserve the guns, not lube them.

lol

out of about 300 rounds i had one brass to the face..

 

Stop shooting it this way....

lol damn it!! i said "magazines" several (three) times and slipped ONCE!!! DAMN YOU GUYS!

Congrats, good luck with it. Your first handgun? Curious if the brass-to-the-face remains a problem or not as you shoot it more.

 

Yeap... first handgun ever.. and the second time i've ever been shooting in my life. The brass to the face actually hit my glasses so i def noticed it... i'll keep close tabs on that the second time i go out. But after cleaning and proper oiling it hopefully doesn't happen again! This Glock 19 Gen 4 has the latest extractor and latest Spring.. and was test Fired in May 2012

How'd you get your glock to feed from CLIPS?

 

 

Anyway - Should clean/lube right out of the box. Especially for brand new firearms. I know Beretta packs their guns in a thick grease that's really to preserve the guns, not lube them.

 

Nick that's not even a clip for a gun. So you boned yourself on that one

You picked an excellent gun. Now go get the Advantage Arms conversion kit and shoot .22LR all day.

...The brass to the face actually hit my glasses so i def noticed it... i'll keep close tabs on that the second time i go out. But after cleaning and proper oiling it hopefully doesn't happen again! This Glock 19 Gen 4 has the latest extractor and latest Spring.. and was test Fired in May 2012

 

Yeah, keep an eye on it (pun!). I'm close to getting a Gen4 G19 myself, and there are many reports of erratic extraction with "brass-to-face" syndrome being a chief complaint. It seems to be luck of the draw, some have no problems, others have it bad. Further reading on the issue if you're interested:

 

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1351443_What_percentage_of_late_model_Glocks_are_effected_by_ejection_issues_.html

10 Fail to Feed!? That's way too many. Check your feed ramp and make sure it is not rough and void of burrs. You might of had a batch of out of spec ammo. Was it the same magazine every time? Could be a mag problem. You should number your magazines. I have all my mags numbered for troubleshooting purposes.

 

I don't think the lube has anything to do with it. Glocks come with a bronze neverseez from the factory. They should shoot right out of the box with no problems. I put at least 300rds through a couple of my Glocks right out of the box with no problems. Although a nice detail strip, clean, and lube is always a good thing.

 

The casing to the face could be a few things. But considering it only happened once in 300rds and you were running Speer lawman, I would think it might have been from your grip loosening after a lot of shooting. Or it could be the extractor getting dirty. Remove extractor, clean and lube. Make sure to clean real good in the breach face corners and around extractor slot/seat. You will be amazed how much buildup happens here that you don't even see. I like to use a new razor blade to scrape off the carbon.

 

What ejector did your 19 come with? 30274 or 336?

 

30274 is the updated ejector. If you have the 30274 and continue to get brass to the face, you might need to tweak your extractor. You can polish the top and bottom of the extractor and file down the inner shoulder a bit. It will make the extractor action much more smooth. It has been proven to work.

 

I have an extra 2 polished and filed down non-dip LCI extractors for sale if interested.

 

With a screen name like destro "23", I figured you would have bought the G 23.

 

 

EDIT: I see you said you have the newest extractor. Did you mean the newest ejector? The 30274?

mine came with 30274 and and the newer spring.. 043 i think... i saw some of that bronze stuff on the rails, it was barley noticeable very very small amount. But i'll be honest with you... after we cleaned and oiled it. It felt MUCH smoother and easier to pull back we both def noticed it(and my friend a seasoned leo also noticed the difference and said in hindsight we should have cleaned and lubed it first anyway, but i met him out and we didn't think to bring any oil just in case)

 

The only way I'll only know for sure now is when I shoot it again.. may not be for another week as this is my busy time of year, but if the issues are "hopefully" gone i'm hoping it was to an "un-lubed" gun/break in that i had those Fail to Feeds. i'll also keep closer eye on the mags.. but i'm pretty sure it happened on at least 2 magazines in the first 50 shots.. after the first 50 it was fine.

Lubrication on a Glock... Less is more. Don't over lube. Keep oil away from the firing pin channel. It will just gum everything up it it gets in there.

pulled glock straight out of box and loaded up 3 magazines and started shooting

 

Here's the error.

Problem solved.

You should definitely go on YouTube and watch videos from 'hickok45' about Glocks.

 

Excellent advice.

Glocks require about 2 drops of lubricant.