I came into this forum excited, curious, and hopeful just a few months ago. I leave now with a feeling of despair, helplessness and frustration. I have listened and learned from a lot of you, and have had some spirited conversations with some that do not agree with me. I have come to an undeniable conclusion.

 

This forum is doing more to harm the remote possibility of second amendment rights being returned to the people of this insane state than I ever would have imagined. When I come in to read the latest posts I more often than not find someone arguing against more freedoms than for. I have only lived in New Jersey for around 5 years and I fully see why the state has taken away your freedoms over the years. What has happened to you all is a crime. Either you need to stand up and take your rights back a piece at a time or you just give up and turn in your guns.

 

I have had enough of this forum siding with this corrupt government we all live under and trying to reason away any chance of changing the laws in favor of the law abiding citizens.

 

For all of you so called LEO and LEO wannabe, you should consider starting your own forum named "Cops against law abiding citizens." You need to realize that law abiding citizens do not, and will never threaten you. Get off this high horse you are on that makes it OK for you to carry but not OK for the lesser NJ residents.

 

I will probably come back every now and then to see what changes have been made or not made to my adopted state's laws, but you anti-gun dopes have stolen my hope. I will go somewhere else to try and find it again.

I'm confused... We are siding with the govt?

Ummmmmmmm - awwwwww, you want a cookie?

 

 

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You have to remember a few things, there are lots of anti's on this forum and not every gun owner is pro gun.

LEOs don't even make the laws though, take your butthurt elsewhere lol.

 

come back when you decide to grow up and start actually thinking. I assure you, you won't be missed.

im not even sure what you are talking about...

LEOs don't even make the laws though, take your butthurt elsewhere lol.

 

come back when you decide to grow up and start actually thinking. I assure you, you won't be missed.

 

I believe he is referring to a comment by a leo on here a few weeks ago, that seemed to many to be very anti-civillian carry, cops only type of comment. Something along those lines, I forget the exact comment that upset quite a few.

Mmmhmm..

I think he's referring to LEOs who say we shouldn't have CCW in NJ...I think.

I think he's referring to LEOs who say we shouldn't have CCW in NJ...I think.

 

those cops usually don't last long on here

well then it sounds like you have given up, just what the anti's want.

I think he's referring to LEOs who say we shouldn't have CCW in NJ...I think.

alot of people in this state probably shouldnt be allowed to carry though....

 

 

well then it sounds like you have given up, just what the anti's want.

lmao

alot of people in this state probably shouldnt be allowed to carry though....

 

 

Please elaborate with comments like this, or else you just prove OP right.

wow I guess the op is right

Please elaborate with comments like this, or else you just prove OP right.

 

the ones who put a half a box of ammo through their gun standing at a static line who think that makes them ready to carry a gun...

but that could be ANY state..

alot of people in this state probably shouldnt be allowed to carry though....

 

 

 

 

 

Yes they're called criminals, however they're the only ones who are carrying.

Please elaborate with comments like this, or else you just prove OP right.

you mean people at your range don't scare you?

 

 

Yes they're called criminals, however they're the only ones who are carrying.

so since criminals don't have to play by the rules means that no one should have to?

 

Yeah, when it's qualification day for LEO's.

lol

you mean people at your range don't scare you?

 

Yeah, when it's qualification day for LEO's.

Yeah, when it's qualification day for LEO's.

Amen

How dare all of you have your own opinions and thoughts!!!1!!11

 

You talk about freedoms and condemn others for having differing opinions. You don't like it go elsewhere. Good riddance.

Amen

 

No offense Paul, but I've seen some "interesting" things watching LEO's and armored car drivers qualify. I'll say that the best shooters are the ones that actually enjoy it.

Yeah, when it's qualification day for LEO's.

 

Good one Ray! Now back in the box!!

OK, I obviously lumped all of you sincere, honest, gun loving, gun rights advocates into a group I should not have. All my comments were meant for those that intentionally or unintentionally take side with the antis. Sorry for any confusion.

OK, I obviously lumped all of you sincere, honest, gun loving, gun rights advocates into a group I should not have. All my comments were meant for those that intentionally or unintentionally take side with the antis. Sorry for any confusion.

 

Hey! You still here?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really, hang out we need hard cores here.

I get my times when I'm like this as well.

I too went through a time when I wanted to leave. I changed my mind and am glad I stayed.

you mean people at your range don't scare you?

 

Not particularly no, if a gun owner takes time to go to the range they are obviously trying to improve their shooting skills.

 

I'd be interested to hear your ideas on how one could qualify for a ccw permit(assuming you could in this state), to weed out the 'scary people'.

Not particularly no, if a gun owner takes time to go to the range they are obviously trying to improve their shooting skills.

 

I'd be interested to hear your ideas on how one could qualify for a ccw permit(assuming you could in this state), to weed out the 'scary people'.

 

you should NOT have to qualify....

you should WANT to qualify...

 

if you have to force a standard those people are already going to fail.. no point in wasting the time..

Not particularly no, if a gun owner takes time to go to the range they are obviously trying to improve their shooting skills.

 

I'd be interested to hear your ideas on how one could qualify for a ccw permit(assuming you could in this state), to weed out the 'scary people'.

long story short it would be a bunch of 1 on 1 training and would cost the person a whole lot of $$$$$

long story short it would be a bunch of 1 on 1 training and would cost the person a whole lot of $$$$$

 

 

don't worry John, i'll troll u later. just ask the guys from the chat

Wow, I am shocked no one has pulled out the overly used butt hurt form yet.