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Things you shouldn't say to your neighbor?

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Weapons retrieved from Cliffside Park house after man surrenders peacefully

 

CLIFFSIDE PARK — A man who was distraught over the prospect of losing his house to foreclosure surrendered peacefully Monday night after a concerned neighbor called authorities, police said.

 

Edward Passaro, 53, had told a neighbor that that he didn’t want to lose his Cortland Place house and that there was “only one way” he was going to leave the house, said Chief Donald Keane of the Cliffside Park police. The alarmed neighbor, who knew Passaro owned "long guns," called police around 8:11 p.m., prompting them to call in a Bergen County Police SWAT team, Keane said.

 

Police shut down a portion of Cortland Place as a precaution and set up a perimeter around the area.

 

Around 9:30 p.m. Passaro walked out of his house and police took him into custody. Police officers searched the house and retrieved six or seven shotguns and rifles, Keane said.

 

A “For Sale” sign was posted outside the house, which Passaro bought in 1995, according to tax records. He had been living there without power for some time, Keane said.

 

Passaro was taken to Bergen Regional Medical Center for evaluation, Keane said. No criminal charges were filed.

 

 

http://www.northjers...peacefully.html

So now when your nehibor alledges something out of the blue the police can come cart you away and take you guns... awesome.

So now when your nehibor alledges something out of the blue the police can come cart you away and take you guns... awesome.

 

Also when you gf/bf, spouse, coworker, boss, friend, or family member does too. It's not innocent until proven guilty all the time.

If someone tells a neighbor hey they wanna take my house because I am not paying my mortgage and there is only one way im going out and the neighbor knows the person has guns. Shame on the person for even hinting toward the fact he might use them to keep his property.

 

If my uncle who is a gun collector himself hinted anything toward me he was considering to shoot people trying to take his foreclosed house I would call authorities as well.Owning guns are a given right to american citizens but, that man is living on the banks property and is without cause to use his firearms,his life is not in danger.

Our legal system is broken. I know this for a fact through discussions with several law enforcement and lawyer friends.

 

It's Guilty until proven innocent.

I agree the reaction was extreme & prob unwarranted, but what the guy said sounded pretty desperate and unsettling so I don't think it should have been ignored either. If the guy DID snap & hurt one of his neighbors, everyone would blame them for ignoring the warning signs. Maybe just send a social worker and a cop to evaluate the situation?

The way I see it is, The guy was venting to what he thought was his friend. And the friend over reacted and deserve's a punt style kick in the nuts.

I think I know the answer to this, however what would be the end result of a guy refusing to give police access to his safe (provided he has one) Warrant obtained, locksmith? torch cut? Confiscation of safe all together? Perhaps just locking the alleged perp up until compliance?

 

I know one way or another they will get the guns if they want, but what is the SOP for a scenario like that with say an 1000 lb safe?

The neighbor was overly cautious, perhaps. But, we can't have it both ways. We can't **** when someone who makes threats or acts imbalanced falls through the cracks because no one dropped a dime on it and simultaneously chastise someone for dropping a dime.

 

Firearms are not toys. We don't play with them, and we don't jokingly point them at objects we don't want to destroy. Personally, I get pretty pissed off when some non-gun owning schmuck makes a jab about how I "shouldn't be messed with" or "no one better go mess around on XX Street" (as was said out loud by a cashier at Dick's in Woodbridge when I bought ammo there once). So, you don't make idle threats about violence when it comes to firearms.

 

How about this neighbor didn't say anything and when the bank came to auction his house off, he lost his shit. We're not talking about it coming out of the blue because he's a gun owner. He said to another person that the only way they are getting my house is by force over my dead body...oh by the way, I have the weapons to do that.

 

Most likely an idle threat. But, if the neighbor minded his own business and things went south...many people would be crucifying him for it.

There has to be more to this story than what was reported. The statement alone could be construed several different ways especially since there was never any mention of him stating that he would use weapons. The guy must have been acting really despondent, irrational, or something to warrant this kind of response.

I grew up around there. Nice area with a view of NYC. I bet the neighbor wanted this guy out of there. Real estate is pricey in the neighborhood.

I grew up around there. Nice area with a view of NYC. I bet the neighbor wanted this guy out of there. Real estate is pricey in the neighborhood.

 

Maybe this. But, if you're a homeowner, the last thing you want is for your neighbor's house to foreclose. Totally tanks your prop value...I know...believe me.

Maybe this. But, if you're a homeowner, the last thing you want is for your neighbor's house to foreclose. Totally tanks your prop value...I know...believe me.

 

Often times yes but some times a foreclosure is favored over an owner who isn't maintaining his property. I don't know that this is the case but if the guy was living there for months without power I wonder what kind of condition the joint was in. Living next to a house with a disaster of a landscape can tank your property value as well.

Ohh really, I hope my neighbors don't know I have firearms. Specially the old couple next to me because they are really nosey, always peeking out the window. But I'm sure they see me carrying rifle bags and ammo boxes almost every weekend.

 

But in reality if this guy has been living at his house for a little while with no electricity. Maybe, just maybe he isn't in the right mind state and should be evaluated. It might be for the benefit of the neighbors and for himself. As for firearms getting taken away, it might be the right thing to do because I really don't want another crazy incident that will be even worst for our gun community here in NJ.

 

Just sayin

I think it's odd that on one hand we hear from various people on our side, "didn't anybody see the signs?" before somebody goes on a killing spree (like that wacko in CO.). Then, when somebody does report something to the cops, the same people go "oh, it's guilty until proven innocent" (not thinking of anybody specific on this forum, just general ranting).

 

So which is it? Do we want people who have serious concerns to say something or not? What if this guy would have shot the bank rep and then had a shootout with police? Wouldn't some people be wondering why the neighbor didn't say anything when this guy made that comment?

 

We don't have the gift of hindsight before something goes down, so I think the benefit of the doubt needs to go to the neighbor in this case.

I think it's odd that on one hand we hear from various people on our side, "didn't anybody see the signs?" before somebody goes on a killing spree (like that wacko in CO.). Then, when somebody does report something to the cops, the same people go "oh, it's guilty until proven innocent" (not thinking of anybody specific on this forum, just general ranting).

 

So which is it? Do we want people who have serious concerns to say something or not? What if this guy would have shot the bank rep and then had a shootout with police? Wouldn't some people be wondering why the neighbor didn't say anything when this guy made that comment?

 

We don't have the gift of hindsight before something goes down, so I think the benefit of the doubt needs to go to the neighbor in this case.

 

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