So I bought a Springfield micro 45 from an online store and the thing looks like its been used has a good amount of wear on it and is missing a few things

 

Anyways the online store told me to send pics and that if I wanted a refund they'll give me one

 

Now the permit is already completed so how do I go about returning this

 

Also I have another permit at my disposal so do I still have to wait a month to get a new one even if I return this one

 

First time poster, thank you for your help

why did you accept it, after you inspected it at FFL's (to where it must have been shipped). you should have sent it back before you wasted a permit on it.

Go back to the dealer that did the transfer for you and have him send it back. He gets a better deal on shipping than you would. I would also ask the dealer that sold it to you to either pay for shipping back or return the original shipping cost to you.

 

About the permit. You used it and it is gone. Yes you will have to wait another 30 days to use that one.

Does anything else need to be done other than sending it back to the online store

Does anything else need to be done other than sending it back to the online store

 

 

Not really. When they receive the gun they will refund your money as far as I know

Even though my name is on the permit it doesn't matter

Even though my name is on the permit it doesn't matter

 

What does the permit have to do with you returning a gun? If you are worried about serial numbers it gets checked into the senders book and the original dealers book. So by then it has changed ownership 2 times. Nothing to worry about.

About the permit. You used it and it is gone. Yes you will have to wait another 30 days to use that one.

 

That is not correct...

 

2C:58-2a

(7) A dealer shall not knowingly deliver more than one handgun to any person within any 30-day period. This limitation shall not apply to:

(d) any transaction where the person has purchased a handgun from a licensed retail dealer and has returned that handgun to the dealer in exchange for another handgun within 30 days of the original transaction, provided the retail dealer reports the exchange transaction to the superintendent…

 

The above would apply to the NJ dealer that transferred the gun to you. Good luck.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

 

 

That is not correct...

 

2C:58-2a

(7) A dealer shall not knowingly deliver more than one handgun to any person within any 30-day period. This limitation shall not apply to:

(d) any transaction where the person has purchased a handgun from a licensed retail dealer and has returned that handgun to the dealer in exchange for another handgun within 30 days of the original transaction, provided the retail dealer reports the exchange transaction to the superintendent…

 

The above would apply to the NJ dealer that transferred the gun to you. Good luck.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

 

Please explain what I have to do to take advantage of this

 

Thanks!

Return it to the dealer who did the transfer. Of course, it may cost you another transfer fee plus shipping, but you can still use another permit within 30 days.

Great thank you everyone for your help

THIS IS WHY I DO NOT BUY HAND GUNS VIA MAIL-ORDER........

that is why you INSPECT what you buy BEFORE you hand over the permit....doesn't matter where you got it, bought it or whatever

Well no problem at all, they agreed to give me a full refund after sending pics they are also paying for return shipping

Well no problem at all, they agreed to give me a full refund after sending pics they are also paying for return shipping

 

Don't forget, in order for you to purchase a replacement within the 30 day period, your dealer must report the return to the NJSP Superintendent.

That's understood the problem now is, Ramsey outdoor store doesn't want to ship it out for me till the manager gets back on Tuesday but the retail wants me to ship it back asap, since they sent me a return label can I ship it out myself and save the shipping receipt or make copies to prove I returned it to take advantage of the 30 days program

That's understood the problem now is, Ramsey outdoor store doesn't want to ship it out for me till the manager gets back on Tuesday but the retail wants me to ship it back asap, since they sent me a return label can I ship it out myself and save the shipping receipt or make copies to prove I returned it to take advantage of the 30 days program

That's understood the problem now is, Ramsey outdoor store doesn't want to ship it out for me till the manager gets back on Tuesday but the retail wants me to ship it back asap, since they sent me a return label can I ship it out myself and save the shipping receipt or make copies to prove I returned it to take advantage of the 30 days program

Sorry my phone is all messed up and doesn't feel like working correctly today

IMO, send it back yourself and wait the extra couple days to acquire another.

I think Ill have to do that because apparently this company doesn't know ups rules because they sent me a label for ups ground and it can only be ups next day air

Can someone please explain to me, how is a return even reported to the superintendent because I've been looking this up but keep coming out empty handed

Can someone please explain to me, how is a return even reported to the superintendent because I've been looking this up but keep coming out empty handed

If you return it to the NJ dealer from whom you acquired it for an exchange for another handgun, that dealer will notify NICS that you returned one for an exchange for another. That way you will get approved for the purchase.

 

If you return it to the online dealer and attempt to acquire a handgun from a NJ dealer, you will be denied the purchase. If you acquire a handgun F2F within 30 days of the prior purchase, you may be arrested.

If you return it to the NJ dealer from whom you acquired it for an exchange for another handgun, that dealer will notify NICS that you returned one for an exchange for another. That way you will get approved for the purchase.

 

If you return it to the online dealer and attempt to acquire a handgun from a NJ dealer, you will be denied the purchase. If you acquire a handgun F2F within 30 days of the prior purchase, you may be arrested.

 

But it says the exchange has to be reported to the superintendent, is reporting the exchange to nics the same thing

Just ignore this everybody, Ramsey manager said he will not transfer me another handgun in under 30 days regardless of what the law says so im using meltzers to transfer my new one and and looks like Ill have to wait 30 days

For future purchases, you might want to consider one of our forum friendly FFL's here on the board.. save yourself some time, money, and frustration.

That is not correct...

 

2C:58-2a

(7) A dealer shall not knowingly deliver more than one handgun to any person within any 30-day period. This limitation shall not apply to:

(d) any transaction where the person has purchased a handgun from a licensed retail dealer and has returned that handgun to the dealer in exchange for another handgun within 30 days of the original transaction, provided the retail dealer reports the exchange transaction to the superintendent…

 

The above would apply to the NJ dealer that transferred the gun to you. Good luck.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

 

Sorry but I have googled the 2c.58-2a and cannot find this wording for this exemption in writing anywhere. Do you have the direct link?

http://www.colddeadhands.com/docs/title2c_chapter58.pdf