I'm considering not using lead bullets anymore because they are so smokey.

I shoot mainly indoors so that smoke really gets to you after a while. And I'm

sure it's not good for your health at all. One member here I think had his blood

checked and it was high in lead levels.

 

They are quite a bit cheaper than plated/jacketed though. I like being able to

have 1000 rounds of 45acp for around 110 dollars (completed rounds) which

is only possible with lead. Maybe I'll just use them for outdoor matches, still

trying to decide if I should still use them.

 

Anyone use them and then stop? Reasons?

Have you tried moly coated bullets? Not smoky at all and they are just a little bit more than lead but cheaper than jacketed/plated bullets. I number of USPSA shooters at OBRPC use them. I just bought my first 1000 of 147 gr in 9mm. I'll pm you the info of the vendor if you're interested.

I have tried the Precision Bullets and they are not bad at all. Price wise I found them to be about the same as Berry's plated though.

I'd rather have plated over moly coated. Where do you get yours?

Moly is less smoky than lead, but still smoky. For .45, the bayou bullets may be the least smoky. Smell like burnt tires though.

The lead doesn't make it smoky, the lube does. Some are better than others, or you can run it dry and scrub the crap out of your barrel every 100 rounds.

Do you mean the lube on the bullets?

 

What do you mean by run it dry? Ive

shot a few hundred without cleaning

and it's still smokey.

I mean run them without lube. I was actually just kidding, you'll drive yourself nuts scrubbing lead out of your barrel, and if you neglect that you could go overpressure.

 

But yes, if you try a different lube you might get less smoky loads.

 

What powder and load are you using? It might also be that your powder is too slow for your load.

I use Accurat #2. These are lead bullets I buy. Not ones I make. So the lube is beyond my control correct?

Also depends on the type of powder you are using.

 

Lead bullets in front of clays powder is not bad at all

 

Lead bullets in front of tite group , looks like a black powder event.

 

quick, fast burning powders will produce more smoke for lead bullets.

I'm probably gonna switch to clays so maybe that will help.

I switched from lead to berry's not that i had a problem and shooting lead indoors sucks way over exposed.. i switched to reduce my exposure overall, i am a cancer survivor and use a wide variety of chemicals so i was told to eliminate those products or try to reduce them to as close to zero as possible.

IMO, indoors shooting use plated or jacketed. Life is too short to be inhaling lead and/or burnt lube or nylon coatings. Personally I avoid indoor shooting if I can. For outdoors, go to town with whatever. The nylon coated stuff will be better at reducing the chances of inhaling vaporized lead over just lead/lube bullets.

Where a filtration mask. I have one in my car at all times. Hey let them laugh at it, it's their lungs not yours!

Montana gold bullets (fmj) arent too much more expensive than lead bullets like missouri if bought in bulk

Montana gold bullets (fmj) arent too much more expensive than lead bullets like missouri if bought in bulk

 

You can get about 4000 lead bullets for $325 vs 2300 Montana Gold.

Don't get me wrong I've seen Montana Golds and they are great bullets

and I'm sure the cost is worth it. It's just hard to not have those extra

1700 rounds!

You can get about 4000 lead bullets for $325 vs 2300 Montana Gold.

Don't get me wrong I've seen Montana Golds and they are great bullets

and I'm sure the cost is worth it. It's just hard to not have those extra

1700 rounds!

 

Didn't realize there was that much price difference for the 45's. Its much less drastic for the lighter weight bullets such as the 9mm and 40/10. When I ordered last i think 3750 9mm 124gr were around $320, with free shipping. Coming out to less than $45 per box of 500. To me, I'd rather spend that little extra for FMJ over cast bullets

You are right for 9mm the difference is much less. Plus if I use lead I can't shoot it through my Glocks which sucks.

You are right for 9mm the difference is much less. Plus if I use lead I can't shoot it through my Glocks which sucks.

 

I understand the glocks have hexagonal rifleing but what exactlyy happrns if you shoot lead rhrough them that is so bad

Also depends on the type of powder you are using.

 

Lead bullets in front of clays powder is not bad at all

 

Lead bullets in front of tite group , looks like a black powder event.

 

quick, fast burning powders will produce more smoke for lead bullets.

 

Just found that our the hard way

How much is your health worth?

 

After a few people on here having issues with lead levels.... especially if you are reloading... look, you are already saving enough money reloading, spend a few bucks and shoot plated or fmj or better yet, JHP or TMJ/CMJ.

 

I pretty much shoot only outdoors now, even if it is cold, and beyond that, only JHP or Plated. Plated (xtreme plated) you can save a bit more over FMJ, and still have a great bullet.

 

In light of a few shooters on here with lead issues, urge everyone to ask their doctors to run a blood test for lead levels. It is not something they run a panel for in general, so you got to ask for it specifically.

btw, for those thinking no big deal.... how much black crap do you have in your nose after an hour or so at the range? (indoor range). Then think of all the unburned powder and residue on your hands, face, clothes. Yup, you are breathing it in, and then bringing it home.

 

It is fine if you shoot once in a blue moon, but if you shoot on a regular basis.... be careful.

http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/35121-heavy-plated-bullets-for-sale/

 

how about theese

http://njgunforums.c...llets-for-sale/

 

how about theese

 

Those are what I use.

Those are what I use.

 

Crap, I wish I'd seen that a month ago, I just got in a couple of thousand new plated bullets from TBW dammit. Oh well, now I know for next time.

I understand the glocks have hexagonal rifleing but what exactlyy happrns if you shoot lead rhrough them that is so bad

 

From talking with people who actually do it, generally nothing. It's one of those "everyone says it's bad, so it must be" things.

From talking with people who actually do it, generally nothing. It's one of those "everyone says it's bad, so it must be" things.

 

I've seen Glock factory barrels leaded up it's not something that happens with a couple of mags, but extended shooting of lead bullets can cause pressure spikes, which, with Glock's unsupported chamber means a sore hand and an exploded pistol..which Glock want replace.