Hello,

 

I have a friend in NY that wants to buy one of my rifles. Do I have to transfer through a FFL?? What paper work do I need?? What is the procedure??

Any help will be appreciated!!

 

Thank you!!

Just meet halfway and do it ftf it might be a lot easier

Long gun transfer to a resident of another state must go through an FFL. Could be an FFL in either state.

Just meet halfway and do it ftf it might be a lot easier

 

Not legal. It must go through an FFL.

 

As for where, do it in New York. If the long gun transfers hands in NJ, the recipient must have a New Jersey Firearms ID card.

Not legal. It must go through an FFL.

 

As for where, do it in New York. If the long gun transfers hands in NJ, the recipient must have a New Jersey Firearms ID card.

 

Not true according to Shore Shot. The New York resident can come to a NJ FFL and show his NY ID and take possession of the rifle.

Not true according to Shore Shot. The New York resident can come to a NJ FFL and show his NY ID and take possession of the rifle.

Not without a NJ FID and matching address drivers license!

No quicker way to lose your NJ Dealer License, and subsequently, your Federal FFL

So here is one I always wondered about.

 

Scenario:

 

You and a bunch of friends are out of state on vacation in a "free state", say Texas as an example. Target shooting or hunting is part of the planned activities.

 

Question:

 

Can two residents of the same state transfer a firearm between them outside the jurisdiction of their home state and if they can which state laws would apply, the state in which they are residents or the state in which they are in at the time of the transfer?

 

Now before you answer think about it, an FFL is required under federal law in a multi-state transfer to follow the laws of both states but this does not apply to individuals. Individuals are prohibited for selling weapons to other individuals that are residents of states other than their own. If you say it would be illegal provide a specific law or specific example of another type of transfer that would fit your reasoning for it being illegal.

Why would it be illegal? Both are residents of the same state.

Why would it be illegal? Both are residents of the same state.

 

My question was is it legal and which laws would govern the transfer, the residents' state, the state in which the transfer took place or federal law?

It is legal. Federal law applies, provided the possession is legal. IMO

 

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It is legal. Federal law applies, provided the possession is legal. IMO

 

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I've been wondering about this myself, I would think it would be legal unless there is some federal law (and I have no idea if there is) that requires the transaction to take place within the confines of the state the two people live in.

 

So, here's another question for you.......... in this event, would a COE even be necessary? NJ law wouldn't apply, and federal law doesn't require it (at least as far as I know), if the transaction took place in PA where FTF long gun sales do not require paperwork.

 

What about doing a HG transaction in a state like Ohio? where FTF paperless HG transactions are legal (assuming Ohio doesn't have a law against two out of staters doing so). I might be pushing the edges on that one, but something to think about.

Hmm. Call ATF and see what they say. Start with the F2F with long guns out of state first, then progress to the handguns without paperwork.

After careful consideration, I would have to guess that the answer that ATF will give, is that a transfer between same state residents, must be done within their own state.

I was reading this thread and I'm not sure what to make of it. If I have a rifle that I want to ship to a dealer out of state (the dealer is actually buying it) and they give me a copy of their FFL, can I ship it direct? I know it can't USPS but I can go fedex or ups correct?

 

Thanks,

Rob

I was reading this thread and I'm not sure what to make of it. If I have a rifle that I want to ship to a dealer out of state (the dealer is actually buying it) and they give me a copy of their FFL, can I ship it direct? I know it can't USPS but I can go fedex or ups correct?

 

Thanks,

Rob

If the dealer will take it directly from you, than you can ship it yourself. I believe you can ship long guns using USPS (if you want to), handguns are not allowed to be shipped though the USPS unless it's shipped by an FFL.