Just a warning to those out there...careful what you say.

 

Just when he thought it was over he gets a knock on the door early morning

by 2 people. And get ready for this.

 

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They were Special Agents from the FBI that wished to go over what had happened in the school.

You really gotta love this "see something say something " crap.

 

Well i learned an important lesson from what happened to him. Don't say anything to anyone or don't say anything

out in public. All this over a "misunderstanding" wow.

 

Anyway careful out there guys.

Heed this warning fellow gun owners:

 

 

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And that's why chickens should never be put in charge of off-shore oil rigs.

Why dont you post this in thie original thread as well

 

http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/40498-so-is-my-friend-screwed-now/page__hl__shadow__st__30

 

My gutt tells me that there is much more to this story than your friend is sharing with you or you are sharing with us.

The FBI does not send agents, let alone "special" agents, to follow up on an off-hand comment about feeling "depressed."

Tell us more

Why dont you post this in thie original thread as well

 

http://njgunforums.c..._shadow__st__30

 

Ah, now the OP makes more sense.

TheDon is 100% correct. As a fed LEO/special agent, we don't get involved in the nonsense this is being painted as.

 

By the time we get to you, we have talked to the complaint any (school), witnesses (person/people who overheard, cops on scene, crisis team, etc....) and hospital staff. When four or five folks (who don't know each other, are decent people and credible) see smoke, there is fire, or was one.

 

There is a lot more to the story to warrant the responding actions than what is being shared here.....a lot more. My boss and chain of command don't entertain nonsense, especially when we can refer to the state and locals. If I am at your door, the incident/conversation was not as described.

TheDon is 100% correct. As a fed LEO/special agent, we don't get involved in the nonsense this is being painted as.

 

By the time we get to you, we have talked to the complaint any (school), witnesses (person/people who overheard, cops on scene, crisis team, etc....) and hospital staff. When four or five folks (who don't know each other, are decent people and credible) see smoke, there is fire, or was one.

 

There is a lot more to the story to warrant the responding actions than what is being shared here.....a lot more. My boss and chain of command don't entertain nonsense, especially when we can refer to the state and locals. If I am at your door, the incident/conversation was not as described.

 

 

Yeah, because the federal govt is known for being efficient and using common sense....

 

Kinda like when the ATF classified a piece of string as an automatic weapon.

My gutt tells me that there is much more to this story than your friend is sharing with you or you are sharing with us.

The FBI does not send agents, let alone "special" agents, to follow up on an off-hand comment about feeling "depressed."

 

If I had'nt seen this very thing happen to someone myself I would agree with you. But I watched a similer scenario go down and it wasnt even over something said. It was for a fictional paper written for college that seemed "too real" for the teacher that ended up with the same kind of 3 letter agency visit and a required psych eval OVER A FICTIONAL PAPER!!!!!!!!!

Just a warning to those out there...careful what you say.

 

Just when he thought it was over he gets a knock on the door early morning

by 2 people. And get ready for this.

 

..

..

...

..

They were Special Agents from the FBI that wished to go over what had happened in the school.

You really gotta love this "see something say something " crap.

 

Well i learned an important lesson from what happened to him. Don't say anything to anyone or don't say anything

out in public. All this over a "misunderstanding" wow.

 

Anyway careful out there guys.

 

Welcome to Russia....this is what they do in those countries. Make you afraid to speak the truth. Who was this dope that snitched? I'd have a little discussion with him. I guess free speech is now a questionable offense. Next time have your friend stand with the "Black Panthers" and Louis Farrakhan then he'll be able to say whatever he wants without question. Sorry, but that's F-D up!

My gutt tells me that there is much more to this story than your friend is sharing with you or you are sharing with us.

The FBI does not send agents, let alone "special" agents, to follow up on an off-hand comment about feeling "depressed."

 

TheDon has this correct. I spent over 30 years as a LEO, 27 of them as a "Special Agent". All the agencies have much more to do than follow up on flippant remarks made by people.

 

Threats against the POTUS are followed up. The FBI would follow up regarding any terrorist threats in this country. There is a lot more that happened than has been told here for either to happen.

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And that's why chickens should never be put in charge of off-shore oil rigs.

 

I laughed out loud.

TheDon has this correct. I spent over 30 years as a LEO, 27 of them as a "Special Agent". All the agencies have much more to do than follow up on flippant remarks made by people.

 

Threats against the POTUS are followed up. The FBI would follow up regarding any terrorist threats in this country. There is a lot more that happened than has been told here for either to happen.

 

What's the probability of the university and other organizations from "stretching" the situation to remove liability or passing the buck? If he was screened like in the OP's original thread, and was cleared, then why the involvement with the FBI? wouldn't they not have cleared him if that was the case? sounds fishy...

What's the probability of the university and other organizations from "stretching" the situation to remove liability or passing the buck? If he was screened like in the OP's original thread, and was cleared, then why the involvement with the FBI? wouldn't they not have cleared him if that was the case? sounds fishy...

 

Really?!?!

Both these threads stink like BS from some 20-something-year-old who spends too much time watching NCIS Los Angeles. A pair of Federal LEO knocking at your door at dark-o-clock and introducing themselves as “special” agents Douche-bag and Romeo only happens on TV.

 

If this account is indeed true, then the OP’s “friend” is BS-ing him. Federal agents only show up at OP’s “friend’s” door if OP’s “friend” was sounding reasonably credible talking shit about committing violent acts. Moreover, they would have interviewed a half dozen people from the original complainant, to the school, to the local LEO, to the social workers, to the hospital doctor long BEFORE showing up at the residence of the OP’s “friend.”

 

So either (A) OP’s “friend” is a shit-talking douche-bag who deserves everything he gets, or (B) OP is just trying to stir the bucket.

In either case, as my 15-year-old son would say, “♪♫ Troll lol lol lol lol, lol lol lol lol. ♫♪ Let it die.”

 

 

What's the probability of the university and other organizations from "stretching" the situation to remove liability or passing the buck? If he was screened like in the OP's original thread, and was cleared, then why the involvement with the FBI? wouldn't they not have cleared him if that was the case? sounds fishy...

 

TheDon answered this. All that investigation is used to check the credibility of the report they received. For example, on 9/12/01, every available "Special Agent" from INS, IRS, ATF, Customs, Secret Service, EPA, Marine Fisheries or any other Federal Agency that has 1811 series, Criminal Investigators was following up any lead with an inkling of credibility regarding the terrorists.

Yeah, because the federal govt is known for being efficient and using common sense....

 

Kinda like when the ATF classified a piece of string as an automatic weapon.

 

Seriously? Every govermnet agency is the same and run by idiots becuase one is bad? That is what you are you going? Such a profound statement! Are you just uneducated on how government actually works or are you so ignorant and/or lazy on the topic you feel the need to make ridiculous generalizations that have little merit to express yourself? Using you own theory, if I can find one POS in your family tree, you by default are a POS. See the error in the logic in your thinking? What one agency does has no bearing on how another is managed or operated. Saying anything different shows nothing but ignorance.

 

And you manage to skip over the entire reason the thread was started. The OP states he asks friend about going to range. Friend says he can’t go, swamped with school work and is dressed his grades suck. Police are called. Crisis team responds. MD determines a psych detention is warranted. Friend is released after six hours. Two FBI agents show up at the house of the kid days later.

 

I think every person on here realizes there:

1) There is a lot missing from the story

2) The original conversation was not as described

3) Or this is just plain BS

 

If you can’t see these issues, you might want to re-evaluate what else you are missing in life. Your BS meter should be screaming and instead you attack the government. No federal agency is going to spend hours 15+ hours opening a case, sending two agents to do half a dozen interviews, writing up those interviews, and then interview a subject without interviewing the “friend” he had the conversation with first about some minor conversation as described. Just not happening!