Squib won....

 

My friend's G19 with KKM barrel. He wasn't hurt but totalled his barrel. Crazy thing was that he had squib rods in his range bag.

 

He just didn't realize he had a squib until it was too late. If in doubt, stop can check everythign over.

wow, looks like the barrel took the blunt. Glad he is okay.

factory ammo or reloads?

 

If it's factory ammo, you can call the manufacturer and report the incident.

Reloads.

Don't think Kkm covers reloads

Could of happen with any ammo. Likely saved the gun by shooting the KKM barrel and not the OEM. OEM would be a far bigger KB.

Squib won....

 

My friend's G19 with KKM barrel. He wasn't hurt but totalled his barrel. Crazy thing was that he had squib rods in his range bag.

 

He just didn't realize he had a squib until it was too late. If in doubt, stop can check everythign over.

 

This is one of the many reasons why I don't shoot indoors in a range that lets you shoot center fire rifles. Hard to hear squibs with all of that ear-blasting NOISE! Not sure of WHERE this took place...

 

Glad your friend wasn't injured!

Wow.. happy he is ok

Could of happen with any ammo. Likely saved the gun by shooting the KKM barrel and not the OEM. OEM would be a far bigger KB.

doubt it.

doubt it.

I had a squib load from speer lawman ammo in my glock 23... anything is possible. I am lucky i caught it. Otherwise i would be in the same boat

Anyone care to explain what a squib is?

Anyone care to explain what a squib is?

 

A squib is a round that was loaded with little or no gunpowder, resulting in the bullet getting lodged in the barrel. So long as you catch it, you can use a squib rod to remove the obstruction and keep shooting. If you send another round through the barrel you get a KB.

 

Of course that won't happen with a USP45f...

 

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My friend was perfectly fine. The blast was more upward instead of towards his hands (blew the slide partially off the rails).

 

Even if you can't hear a squib, you should definitely feel it. Squibs generally don't eject the round properly. He just cleared the jammed case and kept firing. Lesson here is stop if anything seems off.

Of course that won't happen with a USP45f...

 

 

Your right.

 

Split frame is indicative of an overcharged round, not a squib, but nice try

 

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Split frame is indicative of an overcharged round, not a squib, but nice try

 

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Either way they are ammo induced complete failures of the firearm.

 

Besides, isn't that what a squib does? Overpressurizes the firearm?

Was it really loud? Or just sounded like a normal gun shot?

 

Glad to see he is OK.

 

Will the Glock make it? Any frame/lower damage?

 

 

Either way they are ammo induced complete failures of the firearm.

 

Besides, isn't that what a squib does? Overpressurizes the firearm?

a squib load is a bullet lodged in the barrel due to a lack of gun powder. When it happened to me it made a pop not a bang and the shell was stuck in the breech. Now if you fire a round behind it.. u can destroy your barrel and your gun.

Same thing happened about 2 years ago to my friends g35 with a KKM barrel. Barrel split in half but that was the only damage done. There might be pics somewhere here floating around.

As always, it could have been worse. You can easily replace plastic and metal.

Stay alert when reloading and when things don't sound "right" when shooting stop.

This is one of the many reasons why I don't shoot indoors in a range that lets you shoot center fire rifles. Hard to hear squibs with all of that ear-blasting NOISE! Not sure of WHERE this took place...

 

Glad your friend wasn't injured!

 

Maybe you wanna hear my .30 Carbine Ruger revolver at our indoor range sometime?

And invest $30 into an RCBS powder Lock out Die. =)

 

 

Maybe you wanna hear my .30 Carbine Ruger revolver at our indoor range sometime?

 

Why does it not supprise me you have that Mike I am supprised you don't have a BFR in 30-30

Split frame is indicative of an overcharged round, not a squib, but nice try

 

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Could have just been overworked brass and a case head separeation.

 

I'm going to guess that even an h&k isn't going to shrug off firing a live round after a squib.

the squib should sound and feel way different than normal round. If you put enough rounds through your gun you should be able to feel the difference

the squib should sound and feel way different than normal round. If you put enough rounds through your gun you should be able to feel the difference

 

A no powder squib yeah definatly. A low powder one maybe not if you are rapid firing. However the brass usually doesn't eject anyway so you would have to rack the slide yourself to chamber another round.

A no powder squib yeah definatly. A low powder one maybe not if you are rapid firing. However the brass usually doesn't eject anyway so you would have to rack the slide yourself to chamber another round.

 

Yeah I guess youre right about the rapid fire. But I still think most squibs you will feel a significant difference in the weapon.

Why does it not supprise me you have that Mike I am supprised you don't have a BFR in 30-30

 

Gimme some time. College tuition is really cutting into my gun-buying and drag racing habits............

A no powder squib yeah definatly. A low powder one maybe not if you are rapid firing. However the brass usually doesn't eject anyway so you would have to rack the slide yourself to chamber another round.

 

I used to think so too. A No powder one, or one with a very low charge would absolutely feel and sound differently. After I got my hornady lock n load and was getting a hang of things, and before I got the lock out die, there would be times that the powder measure would not cycle all the way and it would not throw enough powder, typically 1 or 2 grains, as opposed to 5 grains for a 40 cal load.

 

In my tanfoglio, these low powder loads would cycle the slide and sound perfectly fine, with the only indication being not able to chamber the next round as the bullet would fortunately get lodged in the beginning of the barrel. Was able to rectify the situation before it went kaboom.

 

At other times, as an RO, you can make out a squib fairly easily from the side, and able to stop someone before they cause damage to themselves and the gun. Better to have the shooter Re-shoot, then to potentially cause damage to themselves, their gun, and most importantly myself or others standing by.

 

Have seen squibs from factory ammo as well as reloads.