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Tactical semi-auto in New Jersey

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Heritage in Rahway just informed me that they don't carry the FN SLP Mark I because it is not legal in New Jersey. Reason: It's a semi-auto that has a mag cap of more than six. So barring this, what is my best bet for a tactical competition shotgun that's legal in this state?

 

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FNP Police is legal. Barrels are interchangeable if you really want the SLP cantilever setup. Check CDNN for good pricing on one.

I was looking into the Mossberg 930 SPX tactical Usualy this gun is 7+1 but I saw on their website that there is a 4+1 version which should work well. If you do not like the ghost ring setup they come in a few configurations. I hope this helps!

 

http://www.mossberg.com/product/shotguns-autoloading-930-special-purpose-spx-8-shot/85360

http://www.mossberg.com/products/shotguns/autoloading/mossberg-930-special-purpose

Not to nitpick because I absolutely hate it when people nitpick on me... But the M930SPX is only an 8-Shot, the other models are the Tactical and/or Home Security models, Not the Special Purpose X-treme models (SPX).

 

I am the first person to have the M930SPX in New Jersey. ... I was sold one "by accident" when I was brand new to buying firearms and apparently the store did not realize either. So I immediately had Choate make me a new magazine that replaced the +3 extension, changed it with the +1, and was okay. And it is the absolute best firearm I own and I would trust me life and my familys defense with it in case of emergency.

 

Several people on the forum as I understand it have purchased M930's since I got mine and I am pretty sure most like them, occassionally I see a 930 appear on the sales forum. I know mine is not for sale at any price. In the Spring-ish/summer 2010 when I was telling someone at CMO about my M930 I was offered first $1000, then exactly double my paying price of $600ish to $1200 and i refused, It is not for sale. That's how awesome I think it is. The Aimpoint Micro I added to it and the LimbSaver recoil pad make it a whole 'nother level of badassness.

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I was avoiding the 930 spx because of the ghost ring sights. Balance of opinion on shotgun forums seems to be that the ghost ring sights are too "slow" for competition.

Scrap,

That's what I thought too but on their website it said 4+1 or 7+1. I would tend to think they made two versions but I am not sure is there a SPX and SPX tactical? How do you like the firearm have you had any problems?

Heritage in Rahway just informed me that they don't carry the FN SLP Mark I because it is not legal in New Jersey. Reason: It's a semi-auto that has a mag cap of more than six. So barring this, what is my best bet for a tactical competition shotgun that's legal in this state?

 

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Correct me if I am wrong but can't a dealer get the shotgun in, order the parts to make it nj legal and then sell it to you?

Tek: I absolutely LOVE THE SHOTGUN more than any other gun I have. It is irreplaceable to me and my firearms pride and joy. it has not malfunctioned EVER NOT EVEN ONCE, having had the magazine replaced, spring replaced, follower replaced, and my cleaning process usually if ever doesn't even entail removing the trigger assembly. STILL FLAWLESS. Just for clarification. The Mossberg 930 is a 4+1 gun . The SPX model comes standard with a Choate +3 Magazine extension making it a 7+1 firearm. The only SPX models they make , I believe it is 3 now, are basically all the same, except the first two differed in that one had a conventional stock (Like I have) the other had the Choate pistol-grip-stock. the newest SPX was the Blackwater version, which basically has a logo on it, I WOULDN'T WANT THAT anyway unless there was some sort of major discount involved. The other 930 Models are not SPX models they are Tactical or Home Security models. It is stupid nomenclature but it is naming nomenclature nonetheless.

 

You would be Very Very Happy with a 930- but the 930SPX is not a competition model, it is a combat shotgun. I LOVE the LPA Ghost Ring Sights but they are not for competition IMHO they are for combat. You should indeed look at Mickulek pro series they just came out with, they would be PERFECT for you. I actually was going to buy my Dad a Mikulek Pro 930 for Christmas until I settled on the Saiga 12 I just bought at while being rudely harassed at CMO . (At least I know he will be happy come Christmas.)

Correct me if I am wrong but can't a dealer get the shotgun in, order the parts to make it nj legal and then sell it to you?

 

Now please recorrect me if I am wrong but I was told that this was absolutely illegal- a dealer in NJ can't accept it if it's not NJ legal from the get go. I tried to have this done a few times early in 2010 and was schooled several times.

 

Now I am not saying this doesn't happen, because I have received PMs on this very forum and on The Firing Line etc. from people telling me how wrong I am about NJ gun laws, "My guy just orders it then fixes it for me before I pick it up, if you weren't such a dumb$**# square law-toter I would let you in on it "(direct quote from someone on The Firing Line once). BUT I think it's illegal, I could be wrong.

 

That is basically why NJ people can't set up an Internet firearms website selling regular firearms to people outside NJ, ... because even if no one in NJ would be using /buying the illegal-here-firearms, if it's illegal when it shows up here its illegal.

 

 

Please do not nuclear bomb me if I am wrong,

How can that be? Dealers get ar's in without them being pinned.

I had a 930spx that was converted to 4+1. I didn't care for the ghost ring sights. I sold it to dave135782 (I just guessed on the numbers) and I believe he has sold it since then also.

 

Nice shotgun but I much prefer to shoot u/o shotguns for clays.

More expensive, but the Benelli M2 is also used in competitions. The "tactical" version typically comes with ghost ring sights and a pistol grip, but you can easily throw a rail on it (receiver already drilled/tapped) and a red dot sight, and non-pistol grip stocks are readily available.

 

NJ FFL's can absolutely take delivery of a non-NJ legal firearm and then change out parts and make modifications to make it legal before delivery to the purchaser.

 

Some FFL's may not be willing to do so, but that's their preference, not because it's illegal.

Now please recorrect me if I am wrong but I was told that this was absolutely illegal- a dealer in NJ can't accept it if it's not NJ legal from the get go. I tried to have this done a few times early in 2010 and was schooled several times.

 

Now I am not saying this doesn't happen, because I have received PMs on this very forum and on The Firing Line etc. from people telling me how wrong I am about NJ gun laws, "My guy just orders it then fixes it for me before I pick it up, if you weren't such a dumb$**# square law-toter I would let you in on it "(direct quote from someone on The Firing Line once). BUT I think it's illegal, I could be wrong.

 

That is basically why NJ people can't set up an Internet firearms website selling regular firearms to people outside NJ, ... because even if no one in NJ would be using /buying the illegal-here-firearms, if it's illegal when it shows up here its illegal.

 

 

Please do not nuclear bomb me if I am wrong,

 

There are many legitimate firearms dealers in New Jersey who will receive a firearm in non-compliant form, do the requisite compliance work on it (i.e. pinning a stock, welding on a muzzle brake, etc) then transfer it to you. The FFL is giving you a compliant firearm. You are never in possession of a non-compliant firearm and thus are not breaking the law in any way.

Not to nitpick because I absolutely hate it when people nitpick on me... But the M930SPX is only an 8-Shot, the other models are the Tactical and/or Home Security models, Not the Special Purpose X-treme models (SPX).

 

I am the first person to have the M930SPX in New Jersey. ... I was sold one "by accident" when I was brand new to buying firearms and apparently the store did not realize either. So I immediately had Choate make me a new magazine that replaced the +3 extension, changed it with the +1, and was okay. And it is the absolute best firearm I own and I would trust me life and my familys defense with it in case of emergency.

 

Several people on the forum as I understand it have purchased M930's since I got mine and I am pretty sure most like them, occassionally I see a 930 appear on the sales forum. I know mine is not for sale at any price. In the Spring-ish/summer 2010 when I was telling someone at CMO about my M930 I was offered first $1000, then exactly double my paying price of $600ish to $1200 and i refused, It is not for sale. That's how awesome I think it is. The Aimpoint Micro I added to it and the LimbSaver recoil pad make it a whole 'nother level of badassness.

lol @ this guy!

Now please recorrect me if I am wrong but I was told that this was absolutely illegal- a dealer in NJ can't accept it if it's not NJ legal from the get go. I tried to have this done a few times early in 2010 and was schooled several times.

 

Now I am not saying this doesn't happen, because I have received PMs on this very forum and on The Firing Line etc. from people telling me how wrong I am about NJ gun laws, "My guy just orders it then fixes it for me before I pick it up, if you weren't such a dumb$**# square law-toter I would let you in on it "(direct quote from someone on The Firing Line once). BUT I think it's illegal, I could be wrong.

 

That is basically why NJ people can't set up an Internet firearms website selling regular firearms to people outside NJ, ... because even if no one in NJ would be using /buying the illegal-here-firearms, if it's illegal when it shows up here its illegal.

 

 

Please do not nuclear bomb me if I am wrong,

 

Whoever told you that is either full of chit or, doesn't know chit about NJ gun laws. A NJ FFL can accept any firearm. They can't transfer it to you unless it is made NJ compliant. Not all FFL's are willing to do this. There are plenty of good ones right here on this sight, use one of them. Some of them also have internet sights and sell guns out of state. Also perfectly legal.

I have the 930 model with the breacher end. http://www.mossberg....al-5-shot/85336

 

Added a choate +2 and it runs like a champ. Nice big front sight dot that makes blowin stuff up fun.

 

Damn, that is a nice looking gun! Wish I could think of some use for it, so I could justify getting one. I already have three pump action Mossbergs, a couple of 500's, one with a 20" barrel and the other with a 28" (couldn't just swap out the barrel on the 20" because the mag tube is too long); and a 590A1.

 

What do you do with yours? Do you shoot it somewhere, or just keep it by your bed for HD?

Wow, I have 3 mossberg pumps too. Are we twins? It use is up in the air right now. The 500 persuader is the HD gun, and the 590A1 is the battlefield gun. The other 500 is set up for zombies so this one is in limbo.

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Ray Ray, possible to post a pic of your 930 with the +2? I'm curious how much the mag extends under the barrel.

Ray Ray, possible to post a pic of your 930 with the +2? I'm curious how much the mag extends under the barrel.

 

this is my customized 930 cut down to 18.25" with a nordic +2 extension with their extended cap. I did this because I put in an anti-tilt follower with an extended tail. If you load short european shells or short reduced recoil slugs, it gets close to fitting 7, but doesn't by about 0.3" for the shortest shells I can dig up. The factory 18" barrels are really 18.5", and the stock nordic cap is about 3/4" shorter than what is on mine.

 

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this is my customized 930 cut down to 18.25" with a nordic +2 extension with their extended cap. I did this because I put in an anti-tilt follower with an extended tail. If you load short european shells or short reduced recoil slugs, it gets close to fitting 7, but doesn't by about 0.3" for the shortest shells I can dig up. The factory 18" barrels are really 18.5", and the stock nordic cap is about 3/4" shorter than what is on mine.

 

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Raz-0, what barrel did you start with? How did you get those sights on the rib, and how much did it cost to do the work?

best i can do

 

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Raz-0, what barrel did you start with? How did you get those sights on the rib, and how much did it cost to do the work?

 

I think it was the 28". Whatever comes on the field model. Only work I had done was cut, thread for choke, had the forcing cone lengthened, and install the sites I sent in with the barrel. I think it cost about $139 with shipping. Something like that. I installed the tube, rail, sidesaddle and clamp myself.

I had a 930spx that was converted to 4+1. I didn't care for the ghost ring sights. I sold it to dave135782 (I just guessed on the numbers) and I believe he has sold it since then also.

 

Nice shotgun but I much prefer to shoot u/o shotguns for clays.

 

Yep, it's mine now. Absolutely love it.

The Mossberg 930 is the best bang for your buck semi-auto shotgun.

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