What's the NJ state guidelines for contacting an employer? I thought they were only supposed to verify employment? I just moved to Howell and submitted for my FID change of address, and a friend who works in our office told me that they not only contacted them to verify employment but told them it was regarding a gun permit and from what I'm told my office "ok'd" it. Unfortunately, my source was not supposed to tell me this so I can't find out exactly what was asked, but I thought they weren't supposed to say what it was regarding and not solicit my employers opinion?

Contact NJ2AS with the details.

You are correct. The Howell PD is in the wrong. Not uncommon, but wrong on so many levels.

Oh and join the NJ2AS...

I am a member of NJ2AS, and I intend to let them know AFTER I get my FID. I know they are not supposed to treat my employer as a reference (and solicit their opinion), but are they supposed to even say what it is in regard to? Considering they contacted them the same day as the CT shooting is splashed all over the news, this could have been a potential disaster for me.

In light of the following from the NJAC, my opinion is no - they should not reveal what their inquiry is in reference to - but you know - opinions are like.......

 

Any background investigation conducted by the chief of police, the Superintendent or the county prosecutor, of any applicant for a permit, firearms identification card license, or registration, in accordance with the requirements of this chapter, is not a public record and shall not be disclosed to any person not authorized by law or this chapter to have access to such investigation, including the applicant. Any application for a permit, firearms identification card, or license, and any

document reflecting the issuance or denial of such permit, firearms identification card, or license, and any permit, firearms identification card, license, certification, certificate, form of register, or registration statement, maintained by any State or municipal governmental agency, is not a public record and shall not be disclosed to any person not authorized by law or this chapter to have access to such documentation, including the applicant, except on the request of persons acting in their governmental capacities for purposes of the administration of justice.

 

Good luck.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Thanks Pizza Bob. I know they overstepped (big surprise), just wasn't sure how much.

Hanover Township sends a letter to your employer stating they are doing a "firearms investigation". I didnt think that was right when I saw it, it sounds like they are doing a criminal investigation.

I live in Hillsborough. When they contacted my employer, they told them why and I was pissed. Luckily the HR person they called is cool and had no issue with it. Becuase I am a manager, I have dealt with this HR person a number of times and we sort of became friends. But it still pissed me off they told her it was becasue I was seekig a permit to purchase a handgun.

I just put down "Retired". Oh wait, I am retired.

I guess it pays to be self employed... My township is good though, they never tried to contact me about my firearms permits til they are ready to pick up.

Ken

My police department attempted to contact my place of work. I don't know what was said, etc. but where I work they charge something like $15.00 for any confirmation, etc. so he didn't get anywhere with them since he didn't pay them. The investigating officer contacted me and told me that I needed to follow up on it. I told him that there was no legality for me to have to pay to have an employment confirmation. This delayed me getting my permits about a week. Lastly, he said that if one of my coworkers at work just verified over the phone that I worked there, then he would take that as an OK and be done with it. So, I gave him the phone number of the guy sitting next to me and he "unofficially" verified that I worked there. The officer still had to place a call to him, though.

 

As a side note, when I go to my department for firearms related things, I have to sign in and put a reason and my address (as anyone visiting the station had to do). So, anyone that came in and saw the sign out sheet that day could easily see who else applied and have a street address, etc., for that person. I don't think that is right in terms of privacy, etc. for the public to possibly have that info. So, I brought it up with the person processing my paperwork and was told to take it up with the chief.

Employment has nothing to do with applying for a permit!

What's the NJ state guidelines for contacting an employer? I thought they were only supposed to verify employment? I just moved to Howell and submitted for my FID change of address, and a friend who works in our office told me that they not only contacted them to verify employment but told them it was regarding a gun permit and from what I'm told my office "ok'd" it. Unfortunately, my source was not supposed to tell me this so I can't find out exactly what was asked, but I thought they weren't supposed to say what it was regarding and not solicit my employers opinion?

 

It is part of the illegal standard practice that happens all the time.

Bayonne also sends out a permission slip to my employer asking if I am competent and right minded to own firearms. It's BS but they get away with it.

 

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As a side note, when I go to my department for firearms related things, I have to sign in and put a reason and my address (as anyone visiting the station had to do). So, anyone that came in and saw the sign out sheet that day could easily see who else applied and have a street address, etc., for that person. I don't think that is right in terms of privacy, etc. for the public to possibly have that info. So, I brought it up with the person processing my paperwork and was told to take it up with the chief.

 

I would just put "question" or "follow up" or "application" and be as vague as possible if you are concerned with others seeing your address and something firearm related

For my job I let my boss know ahead of time that a letter would be coming, and he was cool with it. I was his reference when he filled his paperwork out for his gun haha. My new boss is an avid pheasant hunter so its still looking good. I'm the point of contact for employment verification of most people at my job who are looking to get their FID since everyone knows I'm cool with it.

 

I know that it isnt as easy for most people but just thought I'd throw my .02 in.

It is part of the illegal standard practice that happens all the time.

 

Oh, you mean the practice that tries to criminalize and abuse lawful and generally decent citizens? I wonder if our outspoken governor and presidential man-at-large will address this seemingly unjust practice.

Hanover Township sends a letter to your employer stating they are doing a "firearms investigation". I didnt think that was right when I saw it, it sounds like they are doing a criminal investigation.

I had the same issue. I was so pissed but figured they want to make sure your not wanting to shoot up your workplace

I had the same issue. I was so pissed but figured they want to make sure your not wanting to shoot up your workplace

 

Ohhhh, I see, the old "Pre-crime Unit" argument.

My town has a turn around time of less than a month for FID cards and permits with status updates at every turn. The friends whom I have taken shooting with me and have decided to apply as well have experienced the exact same time frames and courteous treatment. Non of our workplaces were ever even notified (to my knowledge). Do not accept poor policy as "the norm".