Well over christmas dinner my uncle and his son who are both corrections officers told me all they have to do is apply for a ccw and they can get one in NJ. I didnt think that was possible. Hell I know cops really have a hard time getting them. Then he tells me CO's have or will have all the same rights as cops. Is this correct?

Yes. As I former corrections officer and now a police officer they have all the same ccw rights. In both of the departments I have been in as long as you qualify with your weapon you can ccw. No permit necessary

 

 

To add in corrections I had to buy my own weapon and qualify with it separately. In police I can carry either my duty weapon or my off duty. Have to qualify with both.

Are they NJ CO's? If so, as long as they have gona through an academy and are allowed by the department, they should be able to carry. I don't think there is anything they need to apply for (correct me if I'm wrong).

 

My buddy was with NJ State Corrections. He had to wait 1 year probation to carry off duty, but after that he was good. That was a department policy.

 

I know some county CO's that have not gone through an academy, and they are not aloud to carry.

 

What do your uncle/family fall under?

County or state, thru academy can carry off duty after 1 year.

LEOs don't really get a permit to carry as most people think of it. They get their authority from statutes and the when, where, and how from agency policy.

County or state, thru academy can carry off duty after 1 year.

That is up to the department. Nothing in 2C restricts this excepts graduating an approved Police Training Commission approved academy.

Well over christmas dinner my uncle and his son who are both corrections officers told me all they have to do is apply for a ccw and they can get one in NJ. I didnt think that was possible. Hell I know cops really have a hard time getting them. Then he tells me CO's have or will have all the same rights as cops. Is this correct?

 

There is no ccw for Leos. They carry under 2C.

Yes corrections officers have the same powers as police officers with regards to weapons privileges and arrest powers.

According to NJSA 2A:154-3, corrections officers are duly sworn law enforcement officers empowered with full police authority.

 

I was able to carry after i graduated my PTC certified academy and i requalify twice a year

there is always a lot more regarding ccw. ever wonder why 90% of cops do NOT carry off duty when they are already allowed to?

What do you mean? LEO do not get a permit. Period. They carry under their powers.

there is always a lot more regarding ccw. ever wonder why 90% of cops do NOT carry off duty when they are already allowed to?

 

90%?

there is always a lot more regarding ccw. ever wonder why 90% of cops do NOT carry off duty when they are already allowed to?

Where do you get that figure from?

 

The 4 or 5 I know carry off duty. Some are even encouraged to do so.

Yup my uncle is a CO at union county jail and carry's off duty pretty much 99% of the time

All my friends who are police officers do not CCW but that might be different if we lived in a bad area.

Only bad things happen in bad areas?

All my friends who are police officers do not CCW but that might be different if we lived in a bad area.

 

I carry everywhere.. unless I plan to drink. Cos are also covered under 10a that the admin code for jails and prisons along with 2c. Must qualify and be approved by your dept. And most depts make u carry for work if u wanna carry off duty

Police do not need a CCW. Our right to carry comes directly from the 2C and acts in the same manner as when we carry on duty. No permit, other than having you police ID, badge, and concealed holster. Keep in mind that we have to qualify quarterly, have our weapons inpected, holstered inspected, list our carry ammunition, pass semi-annual class/test for use of force, then with our area we practice use of force situation via car stops, building searches, pedestrian contacts with simunitions with roll players and instructors grading us. Everything is recorded and filled out be used later if the worst has to be done by any officer. These histories and training files become extensive over the years. These use of force scenarios can be enlightening as they rapidly evolve.

 

I work with about (down from 105 to 85) officers. I have always been a big proponent of CCW off duty so after twenty years I have a very good idea of who carries and who does not. I think the 90% is an optomistic number and does NOT consider carrying everyday. Most Officers do not have an off duty weapon and rely upon their duty weapon. Many who do have off duty use the "mini Glock". In my opinion it is done as an effort to make the qualification process easier (different gun requires notification to management regarding size, capcity, inspection).

 

I've been qualifying with these guys for 20 years and am considered somewhat of a "gun advocate". I believe there are some reasons why these guys don't carry as much as many of you would do. From what I have seen over the years, maybe some here who believe they would carry everyday would see things the same way after the novelty wears off.

I agree with what you are saying. It can be a pain in the ass. Most cops aren't gun guys.

heading out to mall, loading up 9mm and extra mags.......little one coming with me.....

Smart, I don't blame you.

I agree with what you are saying. It can be a pain in the ass. Most cops aren't gun guys.

 

Comfort, liability and hyper vigilance.

 

BTW...Sears didn't have my broken splitting axe to exchange. Wasted gas, daughter liked the little Jr. Frosty on way home though. Gotta bribe her to go with daddy to tool store!