Thats right it is the MTA. So I guess I would have to complain about another group of possibly overpaid individuals in that regard. Im sorry you couldn't answer any of my questions about understaffing and a respoinsibility to follow laws. But I will stop as it seems it is wrong to ask questions. I will return my head to the sand. Sorry if I got you guys all upset and ruined your Sunday.

The anti-union guys that **** and moan about us being over paid and lazy and useless, are merely jealous.

 

Dont be sad you didnt make the same ( obviously better ) choices we did.

 

I have zero student debt loans, have decent job protection on behalf of the union, and they keep me up to date on training keeping me employable.

 

I make twice the amount everybody my age does who went off to college and work dead end jobs with loads of debt. I WORK my overtime, your damn right I expect to be comensated time and a half for anything over 40+ hours a week.

 

If the company I work for chooses to offer overtime for it's workers, it'd be stupid of you not to take it.

I'm not union ( Wish I was, passed up the electrical union a few years back... Stupid )

If I'm working overtime, you bet I'm getting paid 1 1/2.... I think it's ridiculous for people to say overtime compensation is wrong.

Love the understaffing argument..so if they hire another 150 cops..the the same people here will complain about more govt workers on the roll and more pension responsibilities...and "oh look more cops..just the govt implementing their police state"... Its starting to sound like occupy wall street in here

Thats right it is the MTA. So I guess I would have to complain about another group of possibly overpaid individuals in that regard. Im sorry you couldn't answer any of my questions about understaffing and a respoinsibility to follow laws. But I will stop as it seems it is wrong to ask questions. I will return my head to the sand. Sorry if I got you guys all upset and ruined your Sunday.

 

Fine...sit down with your box of tissues and listen. Are we understaffed yes. OT comes from a lot of different areas; mandatory training, court, arrest processing, special details. Mainly because there are a lot of deficiencies. Also it is cheaper to pay a cop more overtime than hire more guys. New guys means more training, more benefits, more defendants more payroll taxes. They tried years ago to flood the job to kill OT but it cost them a fortune with all that extra stuff. If you have the guys that want to work let them. It actually saves money. As far as a responsibility to follow laws is he not being charged.misnt he suspended without pay. Yes...what the hell else do you want.

 

Alec...you are so right. I find it funny that those that were living high on the hog for years never bothered with us and scoffed at our lowly union, blue collar jobs. Now that the bubble burst it's our fault and they want from us when they could have chosen it along time ago. Who made the smarter choice now.

The anti-union guys that **** and moan about us being over paid and lazy and useless, are merely jealous.

 

Dont be sad you didnt make the same ( obviously better ) choices we did.

 

I have zero student debt loans, have decent job protection on behalf of the union, and they keep me up to date on training keeping me employable.

 

I make twice the amount everybody my age does who went off to college and work dead end jobs with loads of debt. I WORK my overtime, your damn right I expect to be comensated time and a half for anything over 40+ hours a week.

 

If the company I work for chooses to offer overtime for it's workers, it'd be stupid of you not to take it.

 

You must be the man.

 

 

You must be the man.

 

Now the rest of the clowns come in with their intellectual additions to the anti movement

Alec...you are so right. I find it funny that those that were living high on the hog for years never bothered with us and scoffed at our lowly union, blue collar jobs. Now that the bubble burst it's our fault and they want from us when they could have chosen it along time ago. Who made the smarter choice now.

 

Funny thing when I became a teacher everyone made fun of me telling me I'd never make a lot of money. When the economy tanked all of a sudden it was the teachers fault, and they quote teachers making 90-100K but have 20+ years working. I'm 10 years in and don't make a lot at all, but somehow I'm part of the problem.

They said 175k includes benefits. He probably made somewhere between 130k-145k in pay. Which is inline with the pay of most NJ police. I don't think there is one Jersey City cop that made less than 130k.

 

And really, could you buy a house in North NJ and support a family on less than 125k?

 

"fitted with accessories including flash suppressors" that make it an "assault rifle". The absurdity of this drives me nuts, and reminds me of this absurd state that we live in.

 

Add to that how the these pathetic "news" rags are bent on pushing their socialist reform agenda by portraying that all guns and gun owners are as evil as terrorists. This is all part of the grand plan to create the "us v. them" mentality with gun owners and non-gun owners.

 

Just like the media did with the 1% class warfare crap that the liberal media promulgated and got Obama re-elected. They portrayed the "classes" as either you are in the 1% of richest, or you are in the 99% poor and need to vote for Obama. Similar to now, either you are a gun owner or not, and if you are not, then you must "protect yourself" against evil gun owners and help in pushing anti-gun rights laws.

 

Good article that I will show to friends that take the stance that the NJ AWB is only enforced when people are caught up on "other really bad stuff".

I have not read the story.....

 

But have any of you gone back and read the thread....look at the animosity ..the veiled hate in the posts....

 

THIS IS WHY we, gun owners of all walks of life.....will FAIL as a community ......

 

Blue color...white collar....cop..not a cop....tradesmen...office guy.....ALL full of caca de toro.... Lol....

 

The tangents that threads go off on is mind boggling.....UNITE for a common cause....WHY bash each other....?

 

Just like calling the hunter segment..FUDDS...hmmm odd...derogatory ....

 

Keep it on topic or move on....so much drivel has come of late that the entire forum is being drawn down to a level

That wreaks of chi,d like behavior .....

 

I wish I practiced it more..but the old saying..if you have nothing nice to say say nothing at all....

 

Just my .02

 

Good god, this! Bravo.

85k is likely 1300 hours of overtime on top of regularly scheduled duty. You don't think he should be paid for that extra work?

 

162 extra 8-hour shifts in a year? That's basically 65 hour work weeks. Is that common for a leo?

I have not read the story.....

 

But have any of you gone back and read the thread....look at the animosity ..the veiled hate in the posts....

 

THIS IS WHY we, gun owners of all walks of life.....will FAIL as a community ......

 

Blue color...white collar....cop..not a cop....tradesmen...office guy.....ALL full of caca de toro.... Lol....

 

The tangents that threads go off on is mind boggling.....UNITE for a common cause....WHY bash each other....?

 

Just like calling the hunter segment..FUDDS...hmmm odd...derogatory ....

 

Keep it on topic or move on....so much drivel has come of late that the entire forum is being drawn down to a level

That wreaks of chi,d like behavior .....

 

I wish I practiced it more..but the old saying..if you have nothing nice to say say nothing at all....

 

Just my .02

 

 

I agree but i will not stand idly by and let people attack for whatever their reasons are. One of two things has to happen. Either people get banned for continual bashing or topics get closed asap until people learn.

 

I'm guessing every civilian AR is a "bushmaster"? I feel bad for this dude, he might have even been a member here.

162 extra 8-hour shifts in a year? That's basically 65 hour work weeks. Is that common for a leo?

 

Can't speak on behalf of leo, but it's really not that hard to imagine.

 

figure 3 extra shifts per week, work two doubles and one of your weekend days.

 

or a double on one of your days off, plus a double during the week.

 

easy peasy.

 

I've done a 72 hour work week this week, a little burnt out - but trying to bounce back from christmas, and save for new toys

I've done a 72 hour work week this week, a little burnt out - but trying to bounce back from christmas, and save for new toys

 

My worst was 10 straight 12s... that was ROUGH.

 

Not asking. You too.....unfortunately ..... MY OPINION ONLY. A heavier hand of moderation needs to be enacted....no bans...BUT....a firmer hand to keep on topic and erroneous posts comments moderated en masse....

 

As an aside...we should rally behind him indicating how sillynthemlaws are and how confusing that even a leo can get caught up in the gray areas....

 

I agree 100%

My worst was 10 straight 12s... that was ROUGH.

 

6 consecutive 16hr shifts was the worst (or best?) for me.

I'm guessing every civilian AR is a "bushmaster"? I feel bad for this dude, he might have even been a member here.

 

Yah, another thing that irks me lately, every ar is bushmaster, or labled newtown mascare assult rifle.

 

but it's ok, because they put " type " after all these labels.

can we stay on topic here? yeah the dude made a ton of money, but he just got effed big time

well his wife is just as screwed, he loses his job, she gets no alimony ot support! Good Job

I'm still waiting for the updated report that the "flash suppressors" (which are not in and of themselves illegal) were actually pinned, and and those part of the charges will be dropped. You can buy ARs with FSs all day, legally, in Jersey. Good luck getting your guns back, tho.

I'm still waiting for the updated report that the "flash suppressors" (which are not in and of themselves illegal) were actually pinned, and and those part of the charges will be dropped. You can buy ARs with FSs all day, legally, in Jersey.

 

Incorrect. Flash hiders cannot be installed on a rifle that has another evil feature(pistol grip).

Incorrect. Flash hiders cannot be installed on a rifle that has another evil feature(pistol grip).

 

They can if they are pinned/welded. They are available all over the place.

 

AR with pinned/welded flash hider and pinned stock = legal.

 

OR... is this now where we get into the semantics of flash hider vs muzzle break?

 

My buddy has TWO ARs, both withe pinned/welded flash hiders/muzzle breaks, AND pinned stocks.

Still incorrect.

 

There is a legal difference in NJ between a 'flash suppressor/hider' and a 'muzzle break/device'.

Still incorrect.

 

There is a legal difference in NJ between a 'flash suppressor/hider' and a 'muzzle break/device'.

 

This.

Still incorrect.

 

There is a legal difference in NJ between a 'flash suppressor/hider' and a 'muzzle break/device'.

 

AGAIN-I think we are getting into unknowns here.... which is my point: the leo could have confiscated and arrested based on false knowledge (guns with "muzzle breaks" that he is treating as "flash hiders")... my buddy's Bushmaster has a muzzle break, but I don't trust that that FACT would stop a leo from confiscating it, or arresting him, or a newspaper printing that it is a "flash hider", based on the incorrect knowledge that it is a flash hider, from the leo.

 

For example, if this guy's Bushmaster is the same one my buddy owns, the gun has a muzzle break, and is legal... yet he was still arrested, and the gun confiscated, and the incident reported as, one with a "flash hider"... which would ALL be incorrect.

 

THAT is my point... just like all the false information from the press during the CT shooting.

Sure, that is a possibility. It is however contrary to your statement(s) that me and j0n were correcting you on, which is indeed inaccurate.

Haner was also charged with one count of possessing high-capacity magazines, which carries a maximum penalty of up to 18 months in prison.

 

which came first? the chicken or the egg?

 

 

Doing any sort of arrest for seeing something on the end of the barrell seems a little funny, unless he was showing off and threading and unthreading it

Sure, that is a possibility. It is however contrary to your statement(s) that me and j0n were correcting you on, which is indeed inaccurate.

 

I admit I wasn't as clear as I intended on the first post, fixed in the last post.