I heard on NPR this morning that Sandy Hook kids are going back to school today in a different school in the next town over, that has been set up for them. The report said, "Police have been guarding the facility, and authorities assured parents that it is the 'Safest School in America'".

It's the safest school in America because it is being guarded by armed police, but putting armed guards in schools is a terrible idea, you can't solve these mass shootings with more guns?

Which is it going to be folks?

Exactly! There was a threat being rumored at my kids school on 12/21/12. How was the sitution handled, police officers(with guns) were patroling the halls.

 

So what do we do when there is no warning that something bad will happen?

but putting armed guards in schools is a terrible idea

 

Well, everyone has an opinion. I think trained armed guards in schools is a fine idea at this time. Banks (especially commercial banks in NYC) have armed guards to protect the large cash deposits coming in from store owners. So, it is worth hiring a guy with a gun to guard inanimate green-hued pieces of paper with serial numbers on it, but there is a contingent of society bent out of shape when we extend this protection to defenseless children (a 6 year old is totally defenseless, at least a teenager can put up a fight.)

 

Don't forget that police / security in schools is not a new idea. Bill Clinton's $120MM grant in 1999 not withstanding, the high school I attended in the Bronx in the 1980's had at least two NYPD stationed there (there were at least one or two squad cars.) Of course, NYC was a bit dodgy back then, and still is in many neighborhoods.

 

Until the powers-that-be really focus on the problem, this will not get better. And the real problem is: The decay of our civil society from infotainment and sensationalist violent media. Talk to your parents and grandparents and ask them what the media in their day was like. Today's media is corrosive to young minds.

armed guards is stupid, but conceal-carrying armed staff? IS SMART

NRA suggestion..............who would have thought.......Marlboro NJ schools too.

Banks (especially commercial banks in NYC) have armed guards to protect the large cash deposits coming in from store owners. So, it is worth hiring a guy with a gun to guard inanimate green-hued pieces of paper with serial numbers on it, but there is a contingent of society bent out of shape when we extend this protection to defenseless children (a 6 year old is totally defenseless, at least a teenager

 

Excellent point

 

 

Until the powers-that-be really focus on the problem, this will not get better. And the real problem is: The decay of our civil society from infotainment and sensationalist violent media. Talk to your parents and grandparents and ask them what the media in their day was like. Today's media is corrosive to young minds.

 

What do you think the powers-that-be should should do about this? Legislate another freedom away?

Well, everyone has an opinion. I think trained armed guards in schools is a fine idea at this time. Banks (especially commercial banks in NYC) have armed guards to protect the large cash deposits coming in from store owners. So, it is worth hiring a guy with a gun to guard inanimate green-hued pieces of paper with serial numbers on it, but there is a contingent of society bent out of shape when we extend this protection to defenseless children (a 6 year old is totally defenseless, at least a teenager can put up a fight.)

 

Don't forget that police / security in schools is not a new idea. Bill Clinton's $120MM grant in 1999 not withstanding, the high school I attended in the Bronx in the 1980's had at least two NYPD stationed there (there were at least one or two squad cars.) Of course, NYC was a bit dodgy back then, and still is in many neighborhoods.

 

Until the powers-that-be really focus on the problem, this will not get better. And the real problem is: The decay of our civil society from infotainment and sensationalist violent media. Talk to your parents and grandparents and ask them what the media in their day was like. Today's media is corrosive to young minds.

 

Yea, that was sarcasm. The libs are all screaming no guns in schools! but to make it a "safe" school, they've got armed guards. How STUPID can people be? What will work is what the NRA said, even though the press calls them idiots, crazy, and every other thing. That's EXACTLY what works.

My sister works in Santee HS in San Diego, the scene of a gang-related school shooting years ago. Since then they've had armed cops at the school and guess what? No more shooting.

 

The gun control screeching defies all logic.

Oh- and as far as moral decay? The year I was born they were bitching about Clark Gable saying, "Damn" in Gone With The Wind. My how far we've come.

armed guards is stupid, but conceal-carrying armed staff? IS SMART

 

First you need to identify the one or two teachers in the school that ARE NOT libtarded hoplophobes. Most of them are closet gun owners because the rest of the staff would treat them like lepers.

What do you think the powers-that-be should should do about this? Legislate another freedom away?

 

Hmmm... I thought about it some more. I think we, as adults (and parents in the audience), need to work through political channels and with our wallets against the current mainstream media.

 

Privately, I don't think it has a chance in hell. Violence sells; Hollywood knows this. So does EA. The general population votes with their wallets and lack of common sense (i.e. how many rated R movies do you see with young children in the audience? plenty in my neck of the woods.)

 

Random related thought: My brother-in-law bought his son that recent Call-of-Duty game. HIs son is 8 years old. The kid was a banshee while we were trying to enjoy our Thanksgiving dinner, until he let the kid hang out in my den with the Xbox. Pathetic.

 

JayWilling: sorry, I missed the sarcasm! I forget that most posts here are "preaching to the choir"

First you need to identify the one or two teachers in the school that ARE NOT libtarded hoplophobes. Most of them are closet gun owners because the rest of the staff would treat them like lepers.

 

The problem is worse in urban areas. For example, when I lived in NYC, to even shoot a gun you needed a "target" license at the minimum, or to be a guest of a license holder. You are fingerprinted 4 times: copies go to (1) for your home precinct (2) the HQ at 1 Police Plaza (3) FBI? (4) Unknown. Then there is a short interview at 1 Police Plaza. I might have the last requirement a bit off, since I had a "Limited Business Carry" to make the daily cash deposit to the bank. The store "couldn't afford" Brinks, so they put me in harms way instead. Crime was bad during the crack-cocaine era; I also had one or two warehouse guys with me.

 

Anyway, urbanites have no idea about guns; only what they know from TV and movies. I took a neighbor shooting and they were shocked at how loud it was and how they missed the paper target with half of their shots (every first time shooter I've taken out gets a bad case of the flinch after a mag or two.)

 

Urbanites also happen to be Dems in general. D'oh.

 

What is perverse about the Newtown and CT is that the state is home to SAAMI, NSSF, Colt, Ruger, etc. , but the urbanites control the state. Dan Malloy.... puhleeeeze.