So I looked really quick and short of reading 2c I decided that the well educated forum members could chime in faster then I can figure it out on my own. Looking at saiga 12 gauges models seem to come with exterior threads on them for installing chokes. My question is can I install and not pin and weld a compensator or flash hider on a saiga 12 legally? And are the threads legal?

Ya if it has no pistol grip the threaded barrel is the one evil feature already

Choke threads are on the inside of the barrel. Barrels that can accept muzzle devices are threaded on the outside of the barrel. The outside threads are what the law is talking about in terms of features.

 

Edit: deleted unsure statement I made.

Edited January 7, 201313 yr by RecessedFilter

Flash hiders are illegal, muzzle brakes are not. It doesn't matter if it's a mosin or an AR.

 

Incorrect. Flash hiders are LEGAL, providing they are the only "evil feature". I've had a few FFLs on this forum confirm such before I made a recent purchase, as well as a local FFL who sold me a rifle that had a FH as it's only "evil feature".

 

 

Incorrect. Flash hiders are LEGAL, providing they are the only "evil feature". I've had a few FFLs on this forum confirm such before I made a recent purchase, as well as a local FFL who sold me a rifle that had a FH as it's only "evil feature".

 

Gotcha but it would have to be pinned and welded or permanently fixed

Dude I stated it already! If that's the only evil feature is the threaded barrel then no it don't have to be pinned or welded

Gotcha but it would have to be pinned and welded or permanently fixed

 

Again, not what several FFLs here told me. It's the ONLY evil feature, therefore no pinning or welding required.

Dude I stated it already! If that's the only evil feature is the threaded barrel then no it don't have to be pinned or welded

 

Your 1st reply wasn't very clear...

Dude I stated it already! If that's the only evil feature is the threaded barrel then no it don't have to be pinned or welded

 

Where does the law state that a threaded barrel is an evil feature on a semi-auto shotgun??

Wouldnt a flash suppressor on the threaded barrel make it illegal then because it still has threads and a flash suprepressor. Sg laws confuse me haha

Shotgun rules and rifle rules are different

Just remember ---

A semi-automatic shotgun that has at least two of the following:

(1) A folding or telescoping stock;

(2) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

(3) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of six rounds; and/or

(4) An ability to accept a detachable magazine;

3. A semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, a folding stock

or a pistol grip;

 

no PG on a siaga due to the detachable box mag, mag is your evil feature.

So nothing about barrels besides the nfa length of 16 inches oal ok good to know

So nothing about barrels besides the nfa length of 16 inches oal ok good to know

 

 

Its 18" for a shotgun(most are 18.5"), 16" for a rifle

 

Believe OAL is federal and state is 26"

Well, I just put a muzzle brake on my Saiga-12 which came with a threaded barrel and some sort of thread protector on it when I bought it new. I have not pinned and welded it yet, didn't think I had to.

To muddy the waters even more, the AG and statute contradict each other as far as shotguns are concerned. Per statute any semi auto shotgun with a pistol grip or a folding/collapsing stock is an assault weapon.

id stay away from pistol grips on any semi auto shotgun...a copy &paste from vladtepes signature links :

 

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A semi-automatic shotgun that has at least TWO of the following:

 

(1) A folding or telescoping stock;

 

(2) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

**note(having a pistol grip on a semi auto makes the gun automatically illegal even if NO other evil features are present..)**

 

(3) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of six rounds; and/or

 

(4) An ability to accept a detachable magazine;

 

 

ALSO ANY semi auto that has a pistol grip is AUTOMATICALLY an assault weapon and therefore may not be owned period.. even if it has NO other "evil features"..

 

Where does the law state that a threaded barrel is an evil feature on a semi-auto shotgun??

 

I retract my statement sorry for late response I read saiga threaded barrel and that was that!