Ok, I am not pretending to be a scholar, and I know there are far more smarter people then me, that will probably know the answer right off the bat. But here goes anyways.

 

Considering the second amendment is a "Right" and not a "Privilege", If New Jersey tries to install laws that are so ridiculous, that it infringes on our rights. Could we actually file a class action suit against our legislators.... I am sure there are laws that will not allow us to do certain things. And I am sure, this would not be good precedent... But hell, I am pissed off....

I'd join in.

A civil suit, violation of our civil rights. I'm curious what other, legally educated, members say.

It's not any more of an uphill battle than what we've been facing. I'm up for it.

Ok, I am not pretending to be a scholar, and I know there are far more smarter people then me, that will probably know the answer right off the bat. But here goes anyways.

 

Considering the second amendment is a "Right" and not a "Privilege", If New Jersey tries to install laws that are so ridiculous, that it infringes on our rights. Could we actually file a class action suit against our legislators.... I am sure there are laws that will not allow us to do certain things. And I am sure, this would not be good precedent... But hell, I am pissed off....

 

​individually??? I dont know..they may have some kind of qualified immunity..however we can and probably will HAVE to engage in a class-action suit against the state itself

In order to sue for anything, you need standing, as far as I understand.

 

Standing is essentially that, you need a dog in the fight. For example, if you want to challenge a permit system, you need to first apply and be denied. If you want to challenge a magazine ban, you'd have to get caught with an X round magazine, etc.

 

The problem with this, is the vast majority of people are not willing (and rightly so) to risk nearly a decade in prison in order to be a guinea pig. Most people will not even risk having to answer "yes" to being denied a permit for trying to be a CCW guinea pig.

 

And the cases of people who DO get caught with a 17-round mag, improperly transporting, etc. are often in other legal gray areas, i.e. they have a joint on them, or a frantic call, a fishy situation, etc. and while these people are potentially the ones that COULD challenge these laws, the majority of gun owners typically go all "holier than thou" on their ass and say "we follow the laws! you're a dumbass cause you didn't!" and so nothing happens basically.

I said we should have sued Corzine for fraud when he rammed through OGAM. Not that I would expect to win a case like that, but it would have drawn attention to the fact that the claims he was making were false. It would have given the media some good teaser headlines - "NJ Governor sued for fraud, read more" or ", story at 11pm"

I said we should have sued Corzine for fraud when he rammed through OGAM. Not that I would expect to win a case like that, but it would have drawn attention to the fact that the claims he was making were false. It would have given the media some good teaser headlines - "NJ Governor sued for fraud, read more" or ", story at 11pm"

Keep in mind the sponsor of OGAM bill was convicted for corruption charges , you can't make this shit up..