During my reloading class my training counselor told me about a court ruling in either Salem or Cumberland county. The county superior court ruled that a rifle wasn't an assault rifle because the stock only adjusted from long to short instead of collapsing all the was down to nothing or folding.

The guy who told me is more then an honest guy. He is a training counselor, crso, has the only civilian ccw permit in depford, works at the Atlantic county range and qualifies cops (may be retired cops not sure). But he isn't a liar.

 

He said they did what they could to keep this ruling out of the public eye.

 

We need to find this case.

 

I posted it on the nj2as page too.

More importantly they kept it from going state wide by not appealing it so right now it is just one case as opposed to being state precedent. Search the forum, some here it was discussed at length.

Can you nail down exactly which court this was decided in and the date? Would make it easier to get a transcript.

State v. George Percival, Cumberland Co. NJ, 5/10/11 (Ct date)

 

The case was not reported and as such has no value as precedent. The case would have to have been tried under civil forfieture to make law. They ended up settling, with the cops keeping the butt-stock and returning the rifle.

 

HTH

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

This opens a million questions, what stock? Altered stock? Fixed tactical entry stocks are equal to last notch on collapsing stock, what is the story here? Hope someone tells us, but it really comes back to stupid laws written by people with no knowledge of guns, and then having to fit real life cases into laws that make no sense.

This opens a million questions, what stock? Altered stock? Fixed tactical entry stocks are equal to last notch on collapsing stock, what is the story here? Hope someone tells us, but it really comes back to stupid laws written by people with no knowledge of guns, and then having to fit real life cases into laws that make no sense.

 

The "evil features" ban we have isn't because it makes sense or because the features make the rifle more deadly. They do it just to make it inconvienent and more costly to get a rifle. It prevents us from getting an off the shelf standard rifle with bayo lug, flash hider, and adjustable stock.

 

This keeps people who are on the fence from buying a rifle because it becomes a hassle. This prevents ffls from wanting to sell rifles to people in NJ when you go to a PA gun show.

 

The end result is the antis and politicians get what they want. Less guns in NJ.

The "evil features" ban we have isn't because it makes sense or because the features make the rifle more deadly. They do it just to make it inconvienent and more costly to get a rifle. It prevents us from getting an off the shelf standard rifle with bayo lug, flash hider, and adjustable stock.

 

This keeps people who are on the fence from buying a rifle because it becomes a hassle. This prevents ffls from wanting to sell rifles to people in NJ when you go to a PA gun show.

 

The end result is the antis and politicians get what they want. Less guns in NJ.

 

This is exactly the reason for the parts game. So it makes it very difficult for you to get one or you just give up b/c of the hassle.

This is exactly the reason for the parts game. So it makes it very difficult for you to get one or you just give up b/c of the hassle.

 

They didn't account for the fact that most of us are stubborn and willing to play their stupid game.

It prevents us from getting an off the shelf standard rifle with bayo lug, flash hider, and adjustable stock.

 

 

And the grenade launcher