Hey guys

 

Just applied for 3 permits at the local PD and despite it being less than 10 months since I received my last background check, they want me to get fingerprinted again. I don't know if any of you have tried to schedule that lately, but currently the next available appointments are about two weeks out.

 

Anyway, my question is if a handgun you want is not in stock - can you order it with the permits you receive even if you'd take delivery of the gun AFTER the permits have expired? I'd hate lose a pistol permit or two because I can't find what I want. Do shops fill out the permit the day you placed the order or the day you took delivery? Never had to order a gun before these crazy times.

 

Thanks

a permit can not be filled out prior cause the serial # & date must be put on the permit, then must be sent to state pd & local pd within 5 days

Why in the hell are you getting fingerprinted again?

 

Is that normal practice? I was under the assumption fingerprints were done to get a record, not for the background check.

There is absolutely no reason to be fingerprinted again. They don't change and I would refuse to pay for it! They can run a background request all by themselves. I would suggest speaking with the detective in charge first, then his Chief, and if that doesn't work the NJSP Firearms Bureau to give the Chief a nudge call.

Ive ordered a few guns through Gallery of Guns, very easy and fast. Ordered on a monday night , FFL called me that thursday to come pick it up. As for the permit, You only fill it out upon delivery of the gun. As for these times now its extreme thin pickins online.

fingerprinted again?

they must badly want the $$$ fee

When you go to schedule your appointment clicking days even if they are blacked out. I did my fingerprints a few weeks ago and they would X out the day if they had a few open slots. It could save you a few days.

Unfortunately, there is not much you can do about being reprinted. New prints are not required by the state but , are not forbidden either. It's up to your local pd how they choose to do the background check.

Glad I'm not the only one that thinks it's ridiculous I'll have to pay 120 dollars just for fingerprinting in the last year. I guess I'll try to talk to the PD and see what I can do.

 

I knew the serial # went on the permit... was just hoping there was something I could do to not have useless permits and have to go through the entire ridiculous process for a 4th time.

 

I guess I'll try my local shops and then look around online if it comes to that.

 

Thanks for the replies!

Your problem is that the PD doesn't know how to use Morphotrak. Once you are fingerprinted, you are really done as far as Morphotrak is concerned. If they used it like elsewhere, current background can be checked with a simple order request, prints can be electronically delivered to any agency, fingerprint cards can even be printed... Another frustraiting thing about NJ... It took me some effort with my local PD as well because the Chief likes to have background done every so many permits issued, which IS the discretion of the issuing authority. So he and I had a sit down and discussed the situation (actually a great Chief, just POOR police clerk) and I no longer have to do anything for the subsequent background checks.

Your problem is that the PD doesn't know how to use Morphotrak. Once you are fingerprinted, you are really done as far as Morphotrak is concerned. If they used it like elsewhere, current background can be checked with a simple order request, prints can be electronically delivered to any agency, fingerprint cards can even be printed... Another frustraiting thing about NJ... It took me some effort with my local PD as well because the Chief likes to have background done every so many permits issued, which IS the discretion of the issuing authority. So he and I had a sit down and discussed the situation (actually a great Chief, just POOR police clerk) and I no longer have to do anything for the subsequent background checks.

Stop bribing him with duncan donuts. You didn't bring enough for all of us

Stop bribing him with duncan donuts. You didn't bring enough for all of us

 

LOL!!!

You can do what I did. Order the gun, or buy it if ones in stock now. Then pick it up when your permits come in.

Hey guys

 

Just applied for 3 permits at the local PD and despite it being less than 10 months since I received my last background check, they want me to get fingerprinted again. I don't know if any of you have tried to schedule that lately, but currently the next available appointments are about two weeks out.

 

Anyway, my question is if a handgun you want is not in stock - can you order it with the permits you receive even if you'd take delivery of the gun AFTER the permits have expired? I'd hate lose a pistol permit or two because I can't find what I want. Do shops fill out the permit the day you placed the order or the day you took delivery? Never had to order a gun before these crazy times.

 

Thanks

 

Their wrong you only have to do that once.. Did your prints change i dont think so.. if they did you need to figure that out cause you could make alot of money on the black market!!!

I'm gonna stop by the PD today and ask to speak to the officer that requested it... if not him someone else to try to get it resolved. I JUST picked up a rifle yesterday and went through the NICS and can show them that paperwork. Hopefully they're reasonable with me.

Quick update... stopped in and talked to the person who requested that I get fingerprinted again. Turns out the Chief who signed my original FPID has since retired and this guy is the replacement. He told me that everyone going through the first time with him will have to get reprinted, but after that we won't have to do it in the future.

 

I wasn't going to argue with him, so I thanked him for his time and left. Oh well...

I wasn't going to argue with him, so I thanked him for his time and left. Oh well...I immediately left and called the NJSP, the NJ2AS and my Attorney.

 

Fixed it for ya

Fixed it for ya

 

Posted it on NJGF..

Fixed it for ya

 

Forgot Mayor!

 

Chief needs to do nothing more than request another background. It does not require you getting reprinted to do that!

arent prints digital now? why would you need to have that done again? (or is your original print pre-dated to the digital printing?)

My prints are digital... he tried to tell me a reprinting is the best way to conduct the background check (which obviously is BS). He kind of stumbled trying to explain it to me, which was kind of funny.

sorry, but that sounds like a load of crap to me. an $18 background check is what they are supposed to do after you are fingerprinted.. (at least, that was what i was told by my PD)

sorry, but that sounds like a load of crap to me. an $18 background check is what they are supposed to do after you are fingerprinted.. (at least, that was what i was told by my PD)

 

Yeah, that's the actual cost when requesting current background on someone already in the system. Some PDs pass the cost along, some do not.