February 13, 201313 yr My first AR ... old duck hunter here. I have a S&W M & P stripped lower and a DPMS kit for it. I've decided to buy a complete upper assy for it, instead of building one. I'm monitoring all the online sources for the opportunity to buy one. Probably one built by Adams Arms. Has anyone had a problem with an online retailer refusing to ship to NJ an upper assy with a flash hider installed on it ? And, all these barrels come threaded, right? Without a flash hider permanently attached? So I can change it out to a muzzle break. (BTW, there is no "Search" feature for these forums, right?) Great website! Thanks, guys.
February 13, 201313 yr You can have an upper with a flash hider shipped directly to a NJ FFL who can remove the flash hider and pin/weld a muzzle brake and then hand it over to you. I'd recommend contact PK90 for this, but other FFL's do it as well.
February 13, 201313 yr The search engine is there, but sometimes hard to find specific topics. Most vendors don't have issues shipping uppers with non-pinned flash hiders on threaded barrels to NJ. Depending on the mfg or distributor you are buying from, they may be able to pin before shipping to you. It up to the owner's responsibility to make it NJ compliant if it isn't. On a legal standpoint, if you have all the parts at your residence to assemble a non-compliant rifle, it is illegal. It is at your discretion to either have it shipped to a gunsmith to make compliant before receiving it or ship to your location and do not assemble till you make the upper compliant. When taking the upper to a smith to get pinned, only bring the upper, not completely assembled. This will allow you time to pick up the brake you want installed as many are back-ordered or over-priced.
February 13, 201313 yr Since you shoot at cherry ridge I'm guessing you are from up north. So Try to find an FFL close to you that can pin it for you and have it shipped to them. I had mine shipped to me with a flash hider(I took it off myself) then had it Pinned at the guild in Rahway and very happy with the work. Pk90's reputation on this forum is untouchable, but the only thig stopping me from doing business with him is that he is 2 hours away. But as for Adams arms, they make their own brand muzzle brake already on it, that's if you can find that one. I couldn't even find their muzzle brake in the summer time but I contacted there CS and they had one at their facility and they offered it to me but they wanted too much. I'm not sure of the legality of having it shipped to your house, so I can't speak on that. But I had it shipped to my house anyways because I like to live on the edge hahahaha(evil laugh).
February 13, 201313 yr My first AR ... old duck hunter here. I have a S&W M & P stripped lower and a DPMS kit for it. I've decided to buy a complete upper assy for it, instead of building one. I'm monitoring all the online sources for the opportunity to buy one. Probably one built by Adams Arms. Has anyone had a problem with an online retailer refusing to ship to NJ an upper assy with a flash hider installed on it? Never had this specific problem but there are a few retailers who refuse to ship to NJ cause of our dumb laws. And, all these barrels come threaded, right? Without a flash hider permanently attached? So I can change it out to a muzzle break. Not every barrel is threaded. You can have a crowned bull barrel. Most 14.5 inch barreled uppers will be pre pinned. (BTW, there is no "Search" feature for these forums, right?) Search is on the top right corner of the page. Great website! Thanks, guys. Like the other poster mentioned, since you have the lower and parts, I would recommend sending this to an FFL or another house without a lower to get the work done.
February 13, 201313 yr Most 14.5" inch barrels will be threaded and they are considered NFA class III items once assembled into a rifle. It would be up to the purchaser to have whatever pinned to equal 16" length. That being said.. have the upper shipped to a relatives house. Or your house and bring to relatives house still boxed up for storage until you find who's going to fix it up. Open it at relatives... Molon Labe
February 14, 201313 yr Author Since the online retailer will only ship the upper assy to my billing address since this my first order, I'll remove the lower/pistolgrip from my house to be legal. My thoughts were to attach a muzzle brake to the barrel myself, at home. A friend asked me to weld on a muzzle brake onto his AK varient. I just quickly welded the brake to the threads in one spot with my little MIG welder. Now, I realize I want a proper, nice looking job. I wish I could use the forum's PK90, but I am in northern Morris County. I am in the area of Firearms Guild in Rahway sometimes, think I'll check them out, as Gun Powder Addict mentioned. (I actually grew up near there .... that place used to be Charlie Brenners Sport Shop). I also have a collapsible stock coming, that I'll have to do something with. Thanks, guys
February 18, 201313 yr Since the online retailer will only ship the upper assy to my billing address since this my first order, I'll remove the lower/pistolgrip from my house to be legal. My thoughts were to attach a muzzle brake to the barrel myself, at home. A friend asked me to weld on a muzzle brake onto his AK varient. I just quickly welded the brake to the threads in one spot with my little MIG welder. Now, I realize I want a proper, nice looking job. I wish I could use the forum's PK90, but I am in northern Morris County. I am in the area of Firearms Guild in Rahway sometimes, think I'll check them out, as Gun Powder Addict mentioned. (I actually grew up near there .... that place used to be Charlie Brenners Sport Shop). I also have a collapsible stock coming, that I'll have to do something with. Thanks, guys I just dropped my upper and comp there to be pinned. I'll update you in a couple weeks when its done.
February 18, 201313 yr http://www.mastodonammo.com/ They are up the road from Cherry Ridge. They do pin & weld for compensators there. They also have a sub section here as there are a forum vendor. I got a lower from them and I can tell you their customer service is top notch.
February 18, 201313 yr Ironmine. Just have it sent to your house and then take it to get pinned. Its not considered part of the rifle until you attach it. Just dont attach it. You are complicating a simple thing due to all the paranoia around. Taking the lower somewhere else is technically illegal since its the part considered the firearm. Why jump thru all these hoops when you don't have to? Nobody is going to barge in your door looking for your unpinned upper. Just dont assemble it.
February 20, 201313 yr Ironmine. Just have it sent to your house and then take it to get pinned. Its not considered part of the rifle until you attach it. Just dont attach it. You are complicating a simple thing due to all the paranoia around. Taking the lower somewhere else is technically illegal since its the part considered the firearm. Why jump thru all these hoops when you don't have to? Nobody is going to barge in your door looking for your unpinned upper. Just dont assemble it. Assembled or unassembled NJ sees it as a complete rifle. Therefore he would be in violation. In reality I'm sure he would be fine, but its not always worth the risk.
February 20, 201313 yr Assembled or unassembled NJ sees it as a complete rifle. Therefore he would be in violation. In reality I'm sure he would be fine, but its not always worth the risk. Where does the law say unassembled is considered a.complete rifle? Im not saying your wrong I'm just asking.
February 20, 201313 yr I thought it was constructive intent only if you had all parts to assemble ?? Molon Labe
February 20, 201313 yr I thought it was constructive intent only if you had all parts to assemble ?? Molon Labe I'm on my phone, can't do research, wondering what the actual law states.
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