IF, this gets all the way through...

 

What do you think the process would be like?

 

Would it be treated like car registration as something that could be done through the mail?

I understand that if the "pic required on the card" part passes, this would not be the case.

 

Would it be as tedious as when you first apply for one? Fingerprints? The whole nine yards?

 

Just curious if anyone else is wondering this.

I dont think "they" have a clue how it would be handled....

 

So to start to speculate and get all worked up right now does no one any good....

 

Focus your effort on keeping it from even becoming a law.....

Ouchies....understood.

It will be implemented as well as OGAM was, which is to say the NJSP will be given the job and they will have to figure it out

Remember that the single purpose of all these regulations is to create as much burden, obstacles and harassment of legal gun ownership as possible so people just give up. Expect the renewal process to be as painful as possible by design.

Full cavity search.

Remember that the single purpose of all these regulations is to create as much burden, obstacles and harassment of legal gun ownership as possible so people just give up. Expect the renewal process to be as painful as possible by design.

 

Not to mention extra $$ for the state.

Local towns can not handle the amount of people due to the manpower. I even see the State Police having problems.

Not to mention extra $$ for the state.

 

Thi$ is one rea$on why they are ramming this $hit up our a$$.

Local towns can not handle the amount of people due to the manpower. I even see the State Police having problems.

 

That's the whole idea. Easy way to completely stop all gun sales.

Problem in NJ: High crime rate, gang activity, homicides

 

NJ Solution: Train officers to fight crime, pass stupid laws, have said officers spend time behind a desk filling out paperwork.

 

Yes, that will keep the citizens safe.

Just to clarify... I am not a "defeatist". Nor have I "given up".

 

Sure, it's a "what if" but since when does one have to be made to feel wrong for starting a thread on such a "What if" thought? I thought it would make a good discussion.

 

I'm sure I wasnt the only one that has these things going through thier heads.

The point is that nobody knows at this point. I suspect it will be the same process as CCW and probably the same format but this is just speculation.

I went to my local PD today to get the paperwork to have my FID card reissued to me since I can't find mine. She asked me how long I've had it, I told her less than three years. She told me that every five years I need to have my fingerprints done again and get a new FID card. I didn't feel like arguing. Is there legislation pending in Trenton regarding this issue? Do our fingerprints somehow change? Who is going to try and call/mail people when their five years are up? My father has had his FID card for 25 years or so. Barely legible, but still valid.

I went to my local PD today to get the paperwork to have my FID card reissued to me since I can't find mine. She asked me how long I've had it, I told her less than three years. She told me that every five years I need to have my fingerprints done again and get a new FID card. I didn't feel like arguing. Is there legislation pending in Trenton regarding this issue? Do our fingerprints somehow change? Who is going to try and call/mail people when their five years are up? My father has had his FID card for 25 years or so. Barely legible, but still valid.

 

same as my town. after 5 years you have to get printed again (only for pistol permits) Just prints get Updated,nothings else

I went to my local PD today to get the paperwork to have my FID card reissued to me since I can't find mine. She asked me how long I've had it, I told her less than three years. She told me that every five years I need to have my fingerprints done again and get a new FID card. I didn't feel like arguing. Is there legislation pending in Trenton regarding this issue? Do our fingerprints somehow change? Who is going to try and call/mail people when their five years are up? My father has had his FID card for 25 years or so. Barely legible, but still valid.

 

Pending legislation shouldn't affect current validity at all. Either she is ignorant of the procedure or her department is illegally requiring renewal.

 

I'd contact the NJ2AS and ask them about this as part of Operation Establish Compliance. FPID cards are supposed to be valid for life or until you move or become ineligible due to becoming a prohibited person.

Pending legislation shouldn't affect current validity at all. Either she is ignorant of the procedure or her department is illegally requiring renewal.

 

I'd contact the NJ2AS and ask them about this as part of Operation Establish Compliance. FPID cards are supposed to be valid for life or until you move or become ineligible due to becoming a prohibited person.

Interesting, someone at my hunting club had the exact same experience when he went to get a replacement FID.

Interesting, someone at my hunting club had the exact same experience when he went to get a replacement FID.

 

Local PD or NJSP?

Local PD or NJSP?

Local PD. One of the towns in Monmouth. PM me if you want to know the exact one.

When it comes to the fingerprinting policy, it is left up to the discretion of the local PD's whether or not they have you re-printed. Nothing illegal about it. Most common excuse for reprinting I've heard around here is 1) FPID address change when a different PD did the initial FPID and 2) every 5 years when applying for FPID/P2P's.

When it comes to the fingerprinting policy, it is left up to the discretion of the local PD's whether or not they have you re-printed. Nothing illegal about it. Most common excuse for reprinting I've heard around here is 1) FPID address change when a different PD did the initial FPID and 2) every 5 years when applying for FPID/P2P's.

 

I guess if you get a hand transplant you'd better save a doctor's note.

Either they overhaul the entire system in order to modernize and streamline it (which would cost $$$, I doubt the state has the money for this, so the cost would probably be passed onto us). Or they stick with the old system, which would then likely be completely overwhelmed by renewals on top of initial apps. Either way we are up shit's creek.

 

This bill would be the last straw for me, if it passes I'm moving over the border and dealing with an hour long commute to work in NJ everyday.

C'mon it's the government. They don't worry about how to implement something or if it's practical, they just pass the stuff! One can only imagine the Clusterf*ck this can turn out to be.