Please see my letter to Carroll below. Does anyone with political savvy know how feasible and useful it would be to follow my suggestion? If it's a good idea, may I suggest that everyone forward the suggestion to their friendly assemblymen? Can Senators introduce bills, or do they all have to start in the Assembly? If they can, then we can target friendly senators as well.

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Carroll,

 

As I consider the wave of anti-gun hysteria sweeping the Assembly, I wonder if it would be possible to take a page from the Democrat play book and flood the assembly with violence prevention bills addressing poverty, mental health, and drug use. Just as no one can vote no on a bill that has the word "terrorist" anywhere in the text, I would think the same would apply to our anti-violence bills.

 

This would have the dual effect diluting the anti-gun share of voice and of leaving the Governor a wealth of non-anti-gun bills to sign into law to demonstrate his commitment to violence reduction.

 

Please let me know if I can help in any way. I have no political education, but I am well versed in 2nd amendment issues and can write.

 

See the letter to the editor I submitted in response to yesterday's nj.com editorial. Given the 200 word limit, I was unable to address the glaring fallacy of correlation = causation in the "study" they presented, but it will be an important concept to have in mind before any debate. I know you will have public discussions with Cryan this weekend, where it's likely he will bring this up. Please follow the link to the study in the editorial and notice the very strong correlation between gun violence and poverty and college education. The author made no attempt to adjust for these covariates in the analysis.

 

I don't know how familiar you are with these statistical concepts. If I can in any way help you put them into more generally accessible language, call me, and we can discuss. xxx-xxx-xxxx

 

http://blog.nj.com/njv_editorial_page/2013/02/nj_assembly_gun_control_bills.html#incart_most-comments

good strategy IMO. Problem of course is the dems control every bit of the process. It's like playing ball when the other side keeps changing the rules and they own the rule book and just point to the new rule they created to prove their point.

good strategy IMO. Problem of course is the dems control every bit of the process. It's like playing ball when the other side keeps changing the rules and they own the rule book and just point to the new rule they created to prove their point.

OK, well then we can embarrass Oliver by forcing her to refuse to assign these bills to committee.

 

"So, Ms. Oliver, when will the "saving defenseless young children from psychotic terrorists" act make it to committee?

 

"umm....."

 

If we can just get it to committee, they have to vote for it, or they become against defenseless young children and for psychotic terrorists

not just get it to committee but also get it THROUGH committee

This is an excellent idea. I'm on board

Great Ideas. My only suggestion is not to use "anti-gun" language. Anti-2nd amendment should be used instead. It ties our arguments back to the Constitution and peoples rights.

Words matter. The liberals successfully learned to sculpt the conversation to their language years ago. Let’s use their tactics against them

Cheers

Please see my letter to Carroll below. Does anyone with political savvy know how feasible and useful it would be to follow my suggestion? If it's a good idea, may I suggest that everyone forward the suggestion to their friendly assemblymen? Can Senators introduce bills, or do they all have to start in the Assembly? If they can, then we can target friendly senators as well.

 

 

Any member of the Senate or Assembly can sponsor a bill, but the majority speaker in each chamber has total control over which bills get voted on or not in their chamber. This is why it's very important for us to try to persuade Sweeney not to release as many of these nonsensical bills as possible.

 

FYI - MPC has sponsored bills every year for a long time now to eliminate the "justifiable need" requirement for CCW in NJ, it has never gotten a vote.

I wonder if she was rubbing her crotch with each bill that was voted out of committee?

Nothing can become law in this state unless Chris Christie wants it to become law in this state.

 

The Republicans in the NJ Assembly voted the way they did because Christie wanted them to vote the way they did. Christie can't introduce bills, he can just stop them -- but don't we have enough laws in this state already? We probably have enough of an excess supply of stupid laws in NJ to last us for the next 100 years.

 

Reading the tea leaves, I think we're starting to see the outlines of both Christie's 2013 gubernatorial campaign strategy and his 2016 presidential primary campaign strategy. The "safe" gubernatorial strategy is the "risky" presidential primary strategy, and vice versa. The grass roots response here in NJ has probably moved Christie's strategy more to the pro 2A side than it otherwise would have. That's not to say his strategy is set in concrete and that it's not going to change course a bit over the next 8 months and the 3 years after that if he's reelected, but so far, an unusually pro 2A strategy for a blue state politician looks like the direction it's moving.

 

Christie did attack the NRA over its statements about the armed guards at Sidwell Friends School. Thinking about it, it was probably a straw man attack on the NRA because he wants to be able to say he's not a puppet of the NRA. Really, what the NRA said wasn't bad or untrue.

 

I think it might be best if this grass roots campaign continues to be a grass roots campaign, rather than one that's coordinated with the NRA or the professional political class. This is just my $0.02 (or $0.05 with inflation), and OCICBW.

This is an excellent idea. I'm on board

Ok, I've emailed MPC with the suggestion. Can others target the other pro-gun assemblymen and senators.

I understand that these are unlikely to get through Oliver, but maybe Sweeney will be more reasonable? I don't know if Oliver is capable of shame, but with the right educational campaign, we can make it very uncomfortable for her constituents.

 

Writing bills from scratch is a lot of work. Fortunately, Cryan has shown that's unnecessary. Just copy and paste from other states. I'll start looking for promising legislation in other states and see if we can get it introduced.

Ok, I've emailed MPC with the suggestion. Can others target the other pro-gun assemblymen and senators.

I understand that these are unlikely to get through Oliver, but maybe Sweeney will be more reasonable? I don't know if Oliver is capable of shame, but with the right educational campaign, we can make it very uncomfortable for her constituents.

 

Writing bills from scratch is a lot of work. Fortunately, Cryan has shown that's unnecessary. Just copy and paste from other states. I'll start looking for promising legislation in other states and see if we can get it introduced.

If it doesn't get through Oliver, it will never become law.

If it doesn't get through Oliver, it will never become law.

OK, submit to the Senate then, and get it through Sweeney.

OK, submit to the Senate then, and get it through Sweeney.

Still won't become law...........

Doesn't have to. Just has to compete with all the anti gun nonsense coming through for attention on the floor.