I was looking at some Russian Mosins the day and they had rebores and original. All very nice, mostly matching#, some forced. hard to tell condition of bores since still alot of cosmo on them

 

I'm not really concearned about the collectablilty as but more as a shooter.

 

I wanted to know opinions on pros vs cons of rebores

 

I know nothing about Mosins and would like some advice on what to get

A counter bore will be a better shooter every time.

There is no down side unless you are looking for a specific year, arsenel or model and want it untouched.

A counter bore will be a better shooter every time.

There is no down side unless you are looking for a specific year, arsenel or model and want it untouched.

Thanks

Why do some people hate on the counter bores?

I personally despise counterbored rifles. Will never touch them. A counterbore was done to restore accuracy in a rifle with a worn bore from improper cleaning. I look at it as a bandaid to help a otherwise bad bore. others may disagree though.

I personally despise counterbored rifles. Will never touch them. A counterbore was done to restore accuracy in a rifle with a worn bore from improper cleaning. I look at it as a bandaid to help a otherwise bad bore. others may disagree though.

 

Actually it was done to restore accuracy in a rifle with a damaged crown or rifilig at the crown/muzzle, not the entire bore. If the rifleing at the crown or the crown were damaged it's counterbord down right below the damage which is typically less then half an inch but can be a bit more. The other way to repair this would be to cut the barrel down right past the damaged grooves and recrown or replace the entire barrel, however that would require a lot more work. Counterboreing a rifle is definatly not a bandaid for a completely bad or worn barrel it's one of several repairs that can be made to make the same barrel 100% functional again by removing only the damaged area. There is no repair for barrel erosion other then replacing, counterboring such a bad barrel would not restore any accuracy and or function which would end up to being a complete waste of time.

 

Counterbore Removal of worn rifling at the muzzle by drilling it out larger than the bore diameter to improve accuracy.

What does it do to price and collectibility

What does it do to price and collectibility

 

In my eyes nothing , I look for markings , models , etc. most of mine are still in the grease just the top of the receivers and barrels get cleaned.

Like JMT stated above it does not matter to him, to others it matters but to the market place it really does not effect the over all price of the rifle. There are a few very rare variants/years of the MN, one would be lucky to find one period the fact if it had been counterbored or not would make little to no difference. At just about every gun show I have ever been to the sellers will have a ton of MN's lined up on the table or still in the crates. There will be one flat fee for your hand pick. I have found Hex Dragoons, Ex Snipers and just about everything else in the piles all were $99.00 plus tax. The fact that some may or may not have been counterbored made 0 difference. The only thing you wont see in those same piles are Finn's they go for about double a typical 91/30 to start.

Ok good, I checked my rifles and found that my m38 was counter bored. I was a little upset, but I guess it doesn't matter.

Ok good, I checked my rifles and found that my m38 was counter bored. I was a little upset, but I guess it doesn't matter.

 

It's very common with the M38's counterbored and a lot of them are in M44 stocks.

Mines in a m44 stock.

Ok good, I checked my rifles and found that my m38 was counter bored. I was a little upset, but I guess it doesn't matter.

Most M 38s are counter bored. I know a distributor who imported 100 of them, only 2 or 3 weren't counter bored. One of them is sitting in my safe.

What does it do to price and collectibility

 

The value is pretty much unaffected by the counterbore. All of the Mosins we see here have been used, then refurbished which is when the counterbore would have been done, with any other repairs thought necessary at the time, covered in the grease they use instead of Cosmoline, then stored for decades, shipped here and had an importer's stamp hammered into them, etc. These are guns that have seen a lot of history, not something you expect to be in "original" condition. That history is part of the appeal. Maybe the one you have was in the Battle of Stalingrad?

 

There are price differences for different models and years. Finns are worth more. Hex receivers are worth more than the round ones due to age and being less common. People try to collect different years, armories, etc. but unless you are really into collecting a bunch of these it won't matter.