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So what do you do if...

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you order legal 15 round pistol mags and, yep, they hold an extra round?

Return them - mere possession is illegal. While you have no choice with some guns, if there are OE 15 rd mags available, I'd prefer to stick with them - I don't like mags that you can't disassemble for cleaning.

you order legal 15 round pistol mags and, yep, they hold an extra round?

Model of firearm? Magazine make / model?

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I discovered the issue at a range in PA where they remained with a friend. Do think I could cut the springs down?

 

What difference does this make Waterboy?

Model of firearm? Magazine make / model?

you order legal 15 round pistol mags and, yep, they hold an extra round?

 

Keep the receipt that identifies them as 15-round magazines.

Cutting the springs down won't do anything, except maybe cause them to malfunction by not feeding the last couple rounds. Doesn't matter what the receipt says. Once Aitken beat the mag rap on a technicality, you can bet that any questionable mag will be dynamically tested.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

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Cutting the springs down won't do anything, except maybe cause them to malfunction by not feeding the last couple rounds. Doesn't matter what the receipt says. Once Aitken beat the mag rap on a technicality, you can bet that any questionable mag will be dynamically tested.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

 

PB

I don't understand the Aitken reference. Still a newb here.

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Holy sweet Jeebus! That is unbelievable. I knew Jersey was strict but those are police state tactics and that judge did a tremendous disservice to justice. Makes me question whether I even want to own a gun in NJ. If someone does everything to follow the law they can still end up in the clink. Jeebus.

Return them ASAP. I wouldn't want to go to jail for one extra bullet.

Been there, Done that (or this)...

 

1) Disassemble the mag.

2) Get a 1/4 thick piece of UHMW plastic.

3) Make a spacer by shaping the UHMW plastic to the shape of the bottom surface of the follower

4) Dry fit and load magazine. Make any necessary changes

5) Epoxy spacer to bottom of follower

6) Reassemble

Been there, Done that (or this)...

 

1) Disassemble the mag.

2) Get a 1/4 thick piece of UHMW plastic.

3) Make a spacer by shaping the UHMW plastic to the shape of the bottom surface of the follower

4) Dry fit and load magazine. Make any necessary changes

5) Epoxy spacer to bottom of follower

6) Reassemble

+1 Excellent idea.

Does it feed the pistol with a 16th round inserted? If it won't feed the gun then it's legal under the law.

PB

I don't understand the Aitken reference. Still a newb here.

 

What the Wiki article doesn't tell you, and is specific to my reference, is that the magazine acquittal was because the magazine was not dynamically tested. When initially found the police officer loaded the magazine and found that it held 16 rounds. The same demonstration was done for the court. However, the law states that the magazine "must continuously feed" etc, etc. Nappen asked if the magazine, loaded with 16 rounds, had been test fired in the gun to see if it would continuously feed 16 rounds. The police answered in the negative - acquittal.

 

So I have a feeling it ever gets to the point where you are arrested for a large capacity magazine, as defined in NJ, the police will now know enough to actually test said magazine before they go to court.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Do what NJ wants you to do. Turn yourself in to the PD, go to prison like a good citizen.

 

All joking aside, as others said, I'd make them "permanently" modified to only hold 15 rounds, or return them.

You left them in PA?

 

If it were me , I would question the company I bought them from , and ask them why they think a 16th rounds fits..why order more only to find the same issue.

 

What I would not do is have magazines that hold more than 15 rounds. Look into why , and then order ones I knew only held 15.

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Thanks to everyone for all the info. I have every intention of looking into this. They are meg-car mags and from what I understand the make a lot of OEM mags for the big manufacturers.

Just ordered some of the UHMW plastic (cheap) if I have any hassles from the place where I got them.

Mec-Gar makes quality mags. I would almost bet it was a shipping mix-up rather than a poorly engineered mag.

I discovered the issue at a range in PA where they remained with a friend. Do think I could cut the springs down?

 

What difference does this make Waterboy?

 

I wanted to rule out 9mm going into a .40 S&W magazine, or it being a Promag magazine.

 

And btw shortening the spring would allow you to get more rounds in, not less.

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I wanted to rule out 9mm going into a .40 S&W magazine, or it being a Promag magazine.

 

Ah, got ya.

So is it legal to have a 15 round mag and one in the chamber, giving me 16 rounds in the gun?

So is it legal to have a 15 round mag and one in the chamber, giving me 16 rounds in the gun?

 

Yes, that is correct. The law applies to the magazine capacity, not the capacity of the firearm (mag capacity + chamber capacity).

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