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Where is Evan Nappen

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I disagree. On the back cover it says that hollowpoints are illegal. Incorrect information or scare tactics to make make you buy his book? Either way its a reason not to buy his book.

 

Technically hollow points are illegal with certain exceptions. Just like all guns are illegal except when they are at certain places.

 

 

Technically hollow points are illegal with certain exceptions. Just like all guns are illegal except when they are at certain places.

 

Look, hollow points are not illegal. Are they restricted? Yes. Not illegal though.

 

Have you read his book? I have and his recommendations will keep you safe but there are some people who want to follow only the laws and not be safe due to fear of leo not knowing the laws.

Yes I have the book and I've read it.

 

The back page was meant as a comparison with pennsylvania. There don't seem to be any restrictions on HPs in PA whereas there is a narrowly carved exemption in NJ. So for all intents and purposes, outside of a range and your home, HPs are illegal.

Hollow points are only legal under exemptions and are illegal outside of those exemptions.

Having lived in NJ, TX, NYC and FL it seems to me that it is very difficult to get a State to do something they do not want to do. State Judges can interpret things as they see fit. You have to take them to Federal Court and that is a long and expensive proposition. Even if you win in Federal Court there is no guarantee that the State will make comply willingly or make it easy to exercise what the Federal Court wants. Look at Chicago and Illinois for an example.

 

What I have noticed living in two gun restrictive and none restrictive States is that you have to win over the hearts and minds of the majority of citizens of the State. That in turn results in electing officials who agree with the citizens. If you have the majority of State citizens against guns and not caring about any politician's stance on guns, you are not going to get far no matter how vocal of a minority you are. In FL and TX even non gun owners are for gun rights and the politicians know it and the general atmosphere is gun friendly. I can talk about my gun in my pocket while getting a haircut or among people at the community pool or recreations center and no one is telling me how terrible guns are. In fact, we often talk about what guns we all have. It was the same in Texas when I lived there. Everyone I knew thought guns were good and/or owned one or more. The only people around here that are vocally anti gun seem to be those that moved to FL from NYC or Illinois. You have to live in a State where its people are pro gun to notice the big differences. I am sorry to say that I do not see things getting better in NJ. In fact, I fear that they will get worse because it is all about the majority of voters and what they think and challenging a State in court is not going to do much when most in power are anti gun. The Federal Government has to be careful of not trampling on State rights so while they may tell a State to allow ccw they will not dictate under what circumstances that must occur. High fees, extensive training requirements, etc. may all prevent people from taking advantage of any gun rights the Federal Government says they have. I venture to guess that given the current state of affairs and the ages of the Supreme Court Justices, that Obama will get to select one or two of them in the next few years and since we are only one vote away from a different interpretation of the 2nd amendment I fear the worst.

Hollow points Firearms are only legal under exemptions and are illegal outside of those exemptions.

 

FTFY

if you think 10 days for NICS is bad, you are lucky you don't live in Essex county where no resident of the county is able to get a FPID, or a P2P since hurricane Sandy. It's over 4 months now...

Or the six month wait in Clifton, and many other towns, when the weather is fine.

FTFY

 

You can do what you want but the law is as follows:

 

2C:39-3. Prohibited weapons and devices

f. Dum-dum or body armor penetrating bul-lets.

(1) Any person, other than a law enforcement officer or persons engaged in activities pursuant to subsection f. of N.J.S.2C:39-6, who knowingly has in his possession any hollow nose or dum-dum bullet

 

g. Exceptions.

(1) Nothing in subsection a., b., c., d., e., f., j. or k. of this section shall apply to any member of the Armed Forces of the United States or the National Guard, or except as otherwise pro-vided, to any law enforcement officer while actu-ally on duty or traveling to or from an authorized place of duty, provided that his possession of the prohibited weapon or device has been duly authorized under the applicable laws, regula-tions or military or law enforcement orders. No-thing in subsection h. of this section shall apply to any law enforcement officer who is exempted from the provisions of that subsection by the At-torney General. Nothing in this section shall ap-ply to the possession of any weapon or device by a law enforcement officer who has confis-cated, seized or otherwise taken possession of said weapon or device as evidence of the commission of a crime or because he believed it to be possessed illegally by the person from whom it was taken, provided that said law enforcement officer promptly notifies his superiors of his pos-session of such prohibited weapon or device.

(2)a. Nothing in subsection f.(1) shall be con-strued to prevent a person from keeping such ammunition at his dwelling, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, or from carry-ing such ammunition from the place of purchase to said dwelling or land, nor shall subsection f.(1) be construed to prevent any licensed retail or wholesale firearms dealer from possessing such ammunition at its licensed premises, provided that the seller of any such ammunition shall maintain a record of the name, age and place of residence of any purchaser who is not a li-censed dealer, together with the date of sale and quantity of ammunition sold.

b. Nothing in subsection f.(1) shall be con-strued to prevent a designated employee or des-ignated licensed agent for a nuclear power plant under the license of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission from possessing hollow nose am-munition while in the actual performance of his official duties, if the federal licensee certifies that the designated employee or designated licensed agent is assigned to perform site protection, guard, armed response or armed escort duties and is appropriately trained and qualified, as prescribed by federal regulation, to perform those duties.

 

Also see http://www.njsp.org/...ire_hollow.html

 

So like I said, they are illegal with exceptions.

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